A Nightmare about all our time being invalidated

750 is going to feel like 925. 540 is basically sacred gear. How about you educate yourself before you spew nonsense that is false

You can clap for the change, but you’ll be playing with less than 1,000 people logged in everyday soon.

The game Banana will have more concurrent daily players than this game.

The game Banana rewards its players better than this crapshoot of a game ever could.

Diablo 4 is not a game, it’s a torture simulator

This game is so bad it makes a game where all you can do is click a banana look good.

This isn’t a game to blizzard. They are designing it like a full time job. And they pay .01c per year per player.

They literally converted us into free testers for their seasonal realm drops and you all clap.

Imagine expecting a studio the size of blizzard to do its own work, what an outrageous thought.

How are we rewarded for this? Blizzard ~ “let’s nerf all their items again” “but sir that’s the 6th time in 15 months” “eh these simps will never learn, now fetch me my tea brewed with the tears of those who love this franchise”

You are welcome to your own opinion about this, but if your opinion is anything other than what I’m saying, you are entitled and wrong. This is a case of fact and fiction, and a lot of you are living in delusion.

Here’s the arguements for it

  1. You’ll be able to log into eternal day one and farm 750 gear quickly.

Okay if that’s the case why nerf my existing gear to 540? If I’m going to be replacing all my lit gear in an hour of work? That makes no sense. That doesn’t feel fun. It feels like they sending us back to square one for the 6th time in 15 months in the eternal realm.

We get cut 0 breaks in the last 15 months of eternal realm play. I am also a seasonal player who buys battlepass. A lot of eternal players do both.

I was also an eternal player who would buy skins with battlepass platinum then have to buy next battlepass again. So they were milking me and many others for money outside eternal, despite it being my favorite realm.

I don’t think blizzard realizes how much this is going to hurt them. I’m not a whale by any means, but plenty of the whales I’ve talked to are exiting the game. Nobody hates having their time invalidated more than the whales.

Blizzard is doing amazing if their intentions were to destroy your own player base numbers, dip your profits, and lose the trust of your whales.

I mean they are also doing this knowing poe2 drops 1 month after VoS. They know that PoE2 is a potential Diablo killer. They doing it in the face of their primary competition releasing. Which is wild to think.

Imagine making every wrong move, correcting the ship over 15 months, then crashing it as hard and fast as possible.

They have shown they don’t care that we’ve been forced to play an open beta the last 15 months. Despite them releasing the game in dog :poop: state and us having to beta test for them literally 15 months straight.

And we still don’t catch a break. This is clown level stuff. Stop showing up to any blizzard circus. The ring leader is brain dead.

They literally only thinking “how can we monetize this more without showing them we doing that”. Never once does it cross their mind that in their attempt to force us to watch all our time and effort get turned into nothing, that it would cost them trust and money in huge amounts?

You wanna know how to screw up a video game company? Just lose the trust of the players and it’s curtains.

:man_zombie: :dollar: :woman_zombie:

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Had they left all current gear at 925 but then added new gear at 1250 (as you level up to 60) and 1400 (available from torment 1) would you have been happier?

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No. Because you clearly don’t see the problem.

We have been beta testers the last 15 months, at no point has this game had any stability.

Cutting us a break once after we’ve played for 15 months through AN OPEN BETA disguised as a full game isn’t too much to ask.

Cut us a break. This game isn’t real life. Stop treating us like we have to work full time 24/7 to achieve what we want.

Blizzard is milking your fear of missing out.

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So what exactly is the problem? The gear you have now was never going to be ‘endgame’ when the expansion was released. Please tell me you didn’t honestly think you wouldn’t need to find new gear when the expansion was released…

You are Acting like they didn’t already do that to us 5 times within July to July. We had 5 other itemization outdates inside of 12 months. You are an idiot.

Your logic is flawed. If all my items didn’t get outdated every 2.5 months then yeah I wouldn’t mind them being outdated with expansion. But they are doing it both ways.

You are a handicapped shill. Choke harder on their :eggplant:

Current ilvl 625 is future ilvl 540. That is IF the power levels stay the same. IF 540 is not 800+ or something. With fuzzy associations etc. I can prove 625 though.

540 / 800 = 0,675
0,675 * 925 = 625
625 / 925 = 0,675

ilvl 625 is what? Sacred? Some upper echelons of Sacred gear?

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People are angry because the itemization was changed too often since the release of the game, more specifically, 6 times in 15 months.

People are not angry because of the expansion because a new expansion automatically means that you need to farm new gear.

But I repeat myself, people are upset because of too many changes which were produced in a very short period of time.

Blizzard should have left people with their hard earned gear at least one year until the release of the expansion. Too many changes results in frustration because you can not fully upgrade your gear because you need to start from scratch again and 2.5 months is a way too short period of time to produce item changes and/or upgrade it to full potential.

I am not even bringing Tempering and Masterworking in this discussion because this will be just another needel in the coffin because of how bad these two were designed.

I seriously just hope Blizzard will stop with this chaotic itemization in very short periods of time and starts focusing on fixing the game stability and well known bugs, failing which those problems won’t be fixed.

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Thanks for your kind support and understanding of our arguement.

We aren’t crazy people. We are fed up with this roller coaster of trash beta testing being passed off as a finished product.

If current ilvl 625 is new 540, that means they are tuning all our 925 gear to 625 which is tuned to 540. Which is a? Nerf.

Doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to figure this out. They can try to word salad their way out of it, won’t change the truth.

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You are welcome.

My response was the most common and logical thing any Diablo 4 player should have in this topic.

I don’t compare myself to streamers and hardcore players which spend the whole day in the game and can be up to date with all changes because I have a full time job and family but I also paid for this game just like everybody else and I expect to have fun, not get angry and rage quit each time I log in the game and notice that all my progress was wipped or just became zero because of too many updates, patches or so called hotfixes which made all my free time invested in this game worthless.

Not everybody can complete the whole game and upgrade characters in the manner so fast that Blizzard changes things, in this case, the time period of itemization - there is a handfull of players which can be up to date with everything Blizzard throws at them because they probably don’t have a life outside the game and I don’t think the percentage of those players is near the 5% mark. The vast majority should be important and not only those 5%. Blizzard should really read the forums once in a while so they could be up to date as well.

This is the real problem.

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So far I’ve helped stop over 50 people from preordering vessel. In 3 days.

I plan on doing as much as I can to influence things in this direction. They don’t care about players at any level. They are literally money farming us.

I will spread the word as far and wide as I can. I can’t get a refund for my preorder but I can help save the money and time of others.

My clan is multiple clans that all fly under different names. We are working as a group to convince every member to not preorder/refund/don’t play.

I’ve offered to buy the worst of the holdout clan people poe2 if they don’t get vessel.

I’d rather burn my money getting people into a game that doesn’t treat you like a money machine.

Imagine being a hardcore player with multiple 4 GA items and GA Ubers and getting this news. Lol.

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As far as I know the expansion is non refundable - BUT - there is a refund policy :

“We refund Diablo IV within 14 days of purchase, as long as you haven’t played for more than two hours. We refund unspent Platinum within 14 days of purchase.”

This is the link for more info :

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Expansion is non refundable if you claim any of the things like demon wings/platinum. So you can’t refund basically. Because those items are claimed immediately.

They say it’s possibly refundable, but it’s actually not.

There is no avenue to refund due to the immediate claiming of those items via automated system.

This is a slimy tactic used to ensure no refund is possible.

Imagine being unable to get a refund for an unreleased product. 10 minutes after you order it.

What’s worse is they implemented the demon wing thing before campfire to ensure more people would get fooled out of their money.

Had I seen the campfire, you could have given me 100,000 demon wings in different colors and variations and I still wouldn’t have touched this dog :poop:

You could have given me the xpac for free, after seeing the campfire I would never touch this game again.

The steering of the ship is literally that bad. Helen Keller could steer a ship better than this. All day.

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All you’ve done is post at least 3 or 4 different threads spewing utter nonsense negativity about this stat squish which is pretty standard amongst most games now, you sound like you’re having a tantrum and need a time out.

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Yeah me and the other thousands and thousands people exiting this game are just throwing a tantrum.

We are children who have no real life or jobs.

We like to cry on the internet so chads like yourself will recognize us.

What a giga alpha you are

You care about the pack so much.

You clearly don’t know how a schism works. I’ll explain it to you by telling you to closely watch the D4 player numbers over the next 3 months. Watch as they fall into an abyss and never recover.

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It is up to everybody’s decision but try not to give up on hope and since you already pre-ordered the game and won’t get your money back, try to give it another shot.

I am in the same boat as you because I pre-ordered the expansion as well and I really have high hopes and expectations that they will fix things and I not talking only about “sweets words” what players want to hear, I really hope that they will fix the game and don’t rush into things like they did in the last year.

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Na brother. Poe doesn’t treat its consumer this way. They don’t reset gear. The worst thing that can happen in poe is they add new gear to farm.

It’s a matter of principles and morals and ethics.

Diablo 4 as a game itself is amazing. The person leading the ship is a wet horse :poop:

You can’t expect greatness from a wet horse :poop:

Greatness comes from the leadership and direction. And I can tell you, the more things change the more they stay the same. History repeats itself. 6 itemization patches in 15 months.

We are on course for 30 months 12 itemization patches

I don’t think there’s ever been an AARPG that done so much itemization patch in such short time.

Doing such massive itemization overhaul so often is a sign of incomplete bad product.

So we suffered through 15 months of that to be nerfed at the end of the rainbow?

Diablo 4 is a joke. Even if they change items to 750 from 540. Their intent was there to screw us again as soon as possible so nothing will change.

Making eternal 925 750 is the least they could do for us after 15 months of beta testing. And buying cosmetics and battle passes for a game still very much in beta.

Let’s not fool ourselves. The expansion is also gonna be a beta.

Lmk when this game moves out of its beta testing phase.

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Yes, I understand and I also agree with you, morals are very important or at least they should be.

I will give it another try with the expansion but if they will continue with all these reckless changes, I will probably quit as well but I really hope that won’t be the case and they will finally open their eyes.

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If they don’t just know that it’s the whole company of blizzard and Microsoft and start spending your dollars and time with that knowledge.

That’s what I’m gonna do. I won’t buy from them ever again.

It’s 2025 there are endless games to play. Blizzard isn’t even trying to compete.

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Or, maybe, D4 isn’t for you and you should find another game and let those of us who enjoy D4, enjoy it.

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So you enjoy that other people have their items sent back to square one in a realm flagged eternal 6 times in 15 months?

What a sadist and useless lump of life you must be.

Fun at parties I bet where the people put up with you more than like you.

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