I agree with the topic. And now I try to explain my pov. I’ve played D3 for a long time and I’m convinced that grinding the game to find sets and constantly improve the pg is a fundamental part of the game. But, and this is the point, the market of Blizzard’s players is not only made up of people who can dedicate endless hours to the game constantly over time. I myself, when I didn’t have much time left to play, really appreciated being able to use the auction house. I didn’t see and still don’t see any more negative element than the merits of being able to make the game competitive and usable even for less professional players. The auction house, in fact, makes all three parties involved happy: 1) Blizzard (and consequently the shareholders) which receives a fee on the transactions. 2) Who sells (often professional player) who sees their efforts repaid. 3) Who buys, often an occasional player, who can still build a level character and progress in the game without having all the hours necessary for grinding available.
I don’t see negative aspects, or I see more than the merits. The players market is very different in terms of age and time available for the game, why not re-introduce this option to the advantage of anyone who wants to use it? What would make the gaming experience worse since it would not change anything (indeed there could be a gain) for those who are professional players while it would allow a different type of player to remain competitive and attached to the game?
Since the Auction House is a free option I really don’t see much sense (both business-wise for Blizzard and experience-wise for anyone) in not bringing it back.
Thank you 
It’s not clear to me how this would impact your personal gaming experience. You don’t like the AH, you just don’t use it.
If you dont have the time to play how are you going to get the gold needed to buy gear?
You think gear will cost 500 g so you can buy it if you dont have time to play?
Wont you ll have to play like crazy to pay astronomically high price for items? So if that were true, isnt it best to farm the items yourself?
You guys really think having an AH would not affect game`s normal loot? i cant stress enough about D3 release. If you werent there (or you just want to make profit from the game) i can understand why you might defend this but this might kill the game for the people who just want to play.
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I think that if someone want to “pay astronomically high price for items” is not a problem for others players and there is not impact for others players gaming experience. I don’t like this kind of approach (sounds like a moralistic philosophy where someone decides what is best for everyone).
[Stares in Diablo Immoral]
I think it may be that english is not my 1st language. I didnt mean nothing moralistic.
I was using logic to imply that if you dont have time to play , wont have enought money to pay for items so your point was wrong. Why? If a player that plays more than you and have more gold than you, he gets nothing selling a good items for a low price. Inflation may happen too.
When D3 was released , with its RMAH, you could not progress though the 4th difficulty without the AH. That was a fact. Act 1 was possible but once you step on Act 2 every monster would 1hit kill you. I remember some players (some cheaters too because wizard had a bug that made him invincible) just going to act IV to crush pots to get better items. But legit players like me were grinding ACT 1 like crazy to get some power to survive ACT 2 but it was almost imposible until a nerf arrived , of course. But drop rates were shit so they could try to make you use the RMAH.
You know, its not about moral or whatever you said its about being able to complete a game just playing the game without having to play Loot Tycoon with other players.
I now got your point and for me too English is not my 1st language (I’m Italian).
I answer by points and my logic:
“If a player that plays more than you and have more gold than you, he gets nothing selling a good items for a low price. Inflation may happen too.”
I intend the AH in real money only.
“When D3 was released , with its RMAH, you could not progress though the 4th difficulty without the AH. That was a fact. Act 1 was possible but once you step on Act 2 every monster would 1hit kill you. I remember some players (some cheaters too because wizard had a bug that made him invincible) just going to act IV to crush pots to get better items.”
This is a technical problem that Blizzard can solve. The game must be calibrated in a balanced way regardless of the AH.
“You know, its not about moral or whatever you said its about being able to complete a game just playing the game without having to play Loot Tycoon with other players.”
Ok, I understand. But, as said before, is not an AH issue. Blizzard must obviously guarantee the usability of the entire game regardless of the AH. The action house must be only a possibility, not the core of the game.
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So you want more bots again?
If bots are the problem you solve the bot’s problem. What does it has to do with it the AH?
It would be like saying that since a kitchen knife can also be a weapon, we no longer sell kitchen knives. Bah.
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in a game where the main goal is go kill, tune your builds and lucky drops… what’s the point of pay someone else on AH to steal your fun puzzle me…
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So, you will not use the AH. Simply. The puzzle is understanding why you care how someone else plays.
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mm ok but in a game where rarities and legendaries are account bound I dont see the point
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hell no
auction house is a plague
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Doesn’t sound like a big argument…
What people don’t understand is that when you have an auction house the itemization will be designed around the use of the auction house. Have you not learned from what happened in Diablo 3?
Drops in vanilla D3 were complete s*** and it was intended that you find something nice every 5.000 hours but it wouldn’t even be for your current class and build. It was something for a different class which then meant you had to go sell it for (hopefully) a good price and then use the gold to buy an item you actually want to use.
So you weren’t farming items to improve your build but you were farming gold to buy better items. Reaper of Souls threw all of this away and actually created an itemization where 95% of the items you find can be used by your character. You obviously improve your character with those items and less and less of them will be usefull. But if you wanted to you could fill your bags with a rift run and use almost all of the items in there.
Why would you even need an auction house if you can already use most of the items you find and if the chance to find good items for your build is pretty high?
This is also btw. why I think the D4 itemization at this point is a step backwards because they went from 95% useful items to less than 10% again which just outright sucks and brings out people crying for an auction house to buy stuff with gold.
This btw. brings the bots into the game again because when there is demand to buy items with gold (and gold - from what could be seen in the beta - will be an extremely limited resource) then there will be those that want to buy more gold with real money. When there is a market for it then there will be a provider for that service.
And fighting bots is and always will be a fight the devs can’t win. They do a ban wave and a day later you have thousands of new bot accounts.
As said before if bots are the problem you solve the bot’s problem. Bots are not AH dependant (they will also be there without the AH). And, as said before again, the AH is not intended to be the core business of the game but simply a possibility. I explain: the game concept (legendary drop rate and every single parameter of D4) can be set as if AH weren’t there, no problem. But simply leave the auction house as an extra possibility for any kind of player, just that.
No. Big no. Played ESO and PoE. At some point both became economy simulators. And prices on consoles are wild.
I remember asking a friend about his progress in one PoE league. It was like "Yeah I sold some items and bought a whole set for my build. I’m done. Sounds very immersive right?
And again, why do you want to decide how everyone should play? If your friend wanted to do this, what changes in your gaming experience? You can play without using the auction house, what’s the problem?
I’d be okay with an Auction house, just definitely not a real money one like early D3. That game slowly became a gold sellers dream! After a few weeks or months I was logging to play the auction house.
Made a few hundred bucks doing it… but also consumed alot of time watching a market lol.
Diablo 3 was catastrophically improved upon the removal of the Auction House. The drop rates and ‘fun’ of the game should be tuned to self find. The mere existence of an auction house changes the core gameplay loop by providing a faster method to obtain BIS gear.
No. Hard no. Absolutely not, especially since this game has PVP.