ChatGPT dungeons gonna be changed?

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Hello there.

I have a huge one problem with perfect Diablo 4 game. I mean, it could be perfect, and the only 1 thing is ruining all the experience, making it worse thn Diablo 2 or Diablo 3.

And the problem is: “chatGPT-generated” dungeons.
Please, if you choose to have World of Diablocraft instead of Diablo 4 by removing randomly generated world for every session, you need to release the prod-version of dungeons as soon as possible. I finished all dungeons several times, and the seasons still unreleased but I already sick of this door-openers. Yes. I understand, you wanted nice looking 06/06/2023 (there’s no even 3rd 6) date for release, and because of that u made 115 dungeons looks like 5 dungeons, repainted it a little to made release in that date. I understand that and I still enjoying the game u made for us, but… I want to quit it even before seasons was released, because the feel of repetition is killing the joy.

Why you even need this door-openers inside slasher game? You forced ppl do similar quests over and over again in Diablo 3 bounties, but it supposed to be done only if you want to use specific recipes in kanai cube, and even if you want to spam legendary reforge, you can’t do that because of 50 ashes requirement.

You made Nightmare Dungeons the top1 endgame content, there is no any random thing in this game no more, like it was before. So it supposed to be repeated endlesly, right? It means - the main goal of repetitive content - make it feel as less repetitive as possible, right?

If you think the random-generated map could be replaced by 115 dungeons only because they are like… 115. You are wrong.
And after ppl will be tired of this - you will find no one buying your battle pass and skins. I don’t think you need that. Cmon… you really think no one notice how similar all they are and how useless all that mechanics inside the dungeons?

And I am not speaking about how touching a skeleton on a pole could open a door on the other side of the dungeon…

So. The smooth way to fix it, imo, is slowly, one by one, change all this similar door-openers to linear seeking for next door dungeons, simply removing this doors and all “keys” for them, like it was in Nephalem/Greater Rifts in Diablo3, this mechanic was awesome and Diablo 3 - was awesome (don’t listen to Diablo2 “fans”). After that - you could make dungeons randomly-generated or static, but impossible to remember (because now, yes, I could open the map and remember the place I need to go, simply because - in 90% you should go back :smiley: ) Human memory is pretty capable to save 115 similar dungeons inside and after that… I probably return to Diablo 3 or Diablo 2R. And I don’t want this, because gameplay of Diablo 4 is awesome, impactful, engaging and stunning. But looks like you have too much damage to stunned…

Thank you for your attention, your Diablo fan.

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D4 dungeons were such a massive miss,at this point it would require hiring new people to do some innovative stuff and re-work all dungeons completelly.

There’s no way we are stuck with 4-5 copy-paste systems in all of the 120+ dungeons until the end of times…(kill all enemies,put this into that,destroy 3 of this,destroy 4 of that)

D3 GR’s were so much better…

Id like to see at least 20 dungeons,but done properly…

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This is also why i said - the fast and cheap way: just remove this doors and requirements for them. And later, maybe, one dungeon per month… it’s not that expensive, especcialy if we know - they had random maps in Diablo 2, Diablo 3, so this is not an innovation. They just removed it for the sake of WoW key dungeons, which is, by the way, sucks too.

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Dont care much about dungeons.

Should add more world activities such as undead rising at Peaks, big open area that has monster level always much higher than your characters level.

Also specifit very rare world quest that drop from random monsters.

Also bring back trading with some ChatGPT NPC trading hub at big cities.

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D4 needs GreaterRifts with leaderboards like in D3, otherwise doing same dungeons again and again without any competition will be very boring.

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Its not an Esport game. If theres only timed dungeons me and majority will leave, failing in the end as Diablo 3 did. Give more things to do in the world.

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Its not an Esport game. If theres only timed dungeons me and majority will leave, failing in the end as Diablo 3 did. Give more things to do in the world.

But Diablo3 did not ended. I enjoyed this game for X000 hours… only because it has bad start - it’s not a bad game. RoS fixes all and revives endgame, made it better thn D2 with repeptitive boss spams and runefarms. And this is also sad thing, D4 for me started much worse thn D3. An yes, I agree, I don’t want any timers.

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ChatGPT dungeons… wat?

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D2 had way more things to do than bosses. Cows, different 85 areas and torch runs. Where in Diablo 3 only had grifts.

Whats the point here to leave from the cities ever if you can just teleport to NM dungeons.

This game need 1000 more unique items and it needs to have valid, different type of things to do, not only dungeons. Dungeons are ok, but cant be all there is.

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Bad quality, like was created by a machine with easy pattern detection, because of misunderstanding what living human requires.

Souless, irritating, similar, robotic, unnatural, unrealistic, approximate

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Don’t forget that every dungeon in D4 is a big 1 way tube…sometimes with 2-3 junctions, but it’s always a 1 way tube path.

No grid or open area layouts f.e…Its always a big long tube, just with different artworks. :wink:

They have to redesign dungeons from scratch layout and game design vise to become good…the area artworks look amazing, but thats it sadly. :confused:

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Well, you have cows and different high lvl locations in D3 also. Two types of rifts, black portals, greed lair etc.

And also, btw, I don’t understand the reason, why we have 115 dungeons, and only 10-20 dungeons pull for Nightmare Dungeons. Like… why?

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If you have reached a point were you are just repeating, maybe it’s time to stop playing the game? Congrats you have finished every dungeon and quest, now go play something else. Honestly there is no point in farming the perfect item/build, what for? There is no content that would require such a character.

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Almost every game now have repetitive content. Even single players ubisoft copypaste games like AC or FC trying to create some fun after you completed main story.

So, the argument “you finished the game - go to the next one” is not working, especially if we speak about RGP games. Ppl still playing Diablo2, cmon.

And also, they had it before, they had random maps in D2 and D3 and it was pretty enough to make ppl less tired of playing. I am not asking about new 6 acts every week… , the last 6 acts was meaningless anyway.

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D3 was excatly as boring after you reached a certain point. D2 was just a horrible grind and at the time there weren’t many other games that were replayble after you finish it. In “ubisoft copy paste” games they give you various things to “complete”. In D4 there is nothing to complete after you done every dungeon and every side quest. That’s the game.
Same with the ubisoft copypaste: When you completed every task you stop playing.

You are either the type that likes to grind, then every game is the same in that regard, or you get bored by repetition, then you stop playing.

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Just to chip in. I enjoy the game but I think dungeons feel quite repetitive. I really hope it will get addressed at some point, perhaps expansion.

The tasks that I do all the time: Free prisoners, kill all, [1-3],bring blood shard/statue, kill elite, destroy something (eg. skeletal construct).

Bosses I kill: Khazara Abomination, Tomb Lord, That overweight lady, Blood Bishop, Shaman Demon, The guy with traps, Council.

Events with NPCs who say always the same thing “aghag… we got separated…aghagh” (this drives me mad sometimes) I think it would be better if there were no events like this at all because there is just so few of them and they appear across all dungeons and feel very repetitive. Maybe if Blizz, instead of 5 would make 20-30 of them than that could work. (but this lady who got separated, I do not want to hear her ever again, no disrespect to voice actor, I just heard this line too many times )

Overall I think Blizz is on the right track, I love the open world format, the game is well designed and polished and all team did fantastic job in my opinion. I am having good time like in my teens. I think the last game I enjoyed this much was Skyrim or Fallout 4.

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One change I would like to see is some reward for that ridiculous gate room … That thing has pinged me more than the boss battle and it provides zero benefit…

The logic behind it speaks to some seriously broken mind

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You have absolutly right. I spend a lot of time on D3/D4 and repeatable dungeons are boring like hell. In D4 there is no random at all. Even submissions in every dungeons are same.

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Yeah, events is also svcks as hell, but atleast I can skip them all, if I see “separated lady” - i just understand this is the dead end of the dungeon, builded specially for event.

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