Echo Of Lilith - Shame on you Devs

This battle is the most shameful, poorly designed boss fight i have seen in my 15+ years gaming, i love me a difficult fight, but this really is so pathetic. I have maxed out all the dark souls, i’ve done naked run throughs as a challenge, nothing in my entire gaming experience has even come close to this in terms of sheer frustration, its not even about being good at the game its just luck and making a build that skips the whole fight? not even duriel in diablo 2 when there was a loading issue and you’d enter the room with him inside you was this frustrating because you could tp out the way, try doing this here and you get instakilled by the small circle that happens to be there. Devs, have you even tried this boss with all the classes? not to mention the various bugs that happen such as the random zoom in sometimes, the lighting going dark for no reason which makes the oneshot attacks very hard to see, and i would pray that the many one shot mechanics with almost no warning were a mistake? but i can already imagine dozens of people telling me to git gud, so lets do this, next campfire chat, bust out a laptop for each of you with a prerolled character build that ISN’T stagger, and do a run through yourselves, live, with each class on echo of lilith and let’s see how you rationalise it, it might open your eyes a bit, because i honestly think you don’t actually know the state of your final capstone boss.

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Easy way to kill Lilith:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVTlkhgZAA&t=11s

yeah, let’s exploit bugs

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unless you either use exploits or one of the few very broken meta builds that melts her in seconds, you wont beat that fight.

seems its not designed for those of us who play normal builds.

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Sorry but Blizzard are a bunch of idiots because you just have no chance with this, I can get so far towards the end of level two by avoidance but how ever much damage you do she just fly’s around and destroys what’s underneath you, are they so thick that they had to develop this, there is obviously some low level of IQ with the devs that they think that this is in some way intelligent!!!

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actually I tought the same, e.g. Tibault pants providing ombo points like exaplained int hat video is bug, BUT, they reelased already few patches since that “bug” exist, why they do not fix it if it is a bug?

Totally agree. Beat all the bosses except U-Lilith who keeps one shooting me - sometime sooner sometime later, with insta-attacks. There is no skill here, just luck or a ridiculous damage build. Done with this game for now, hope they fix this eventually.

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Dear plsyers to kill lilit u need have strong dps + braine , u need be next to here cuz rest area will be get burn killing evere thing , then ground will be collapse kiling all next to here , the u need changing place all time to be on right one, about spikes if u have enough dps u not see them , if urs dps is low u need going down and dash to run from it , take good moment .
When u rich levele 100 u need 3 things to by great player.
1 you pass all mobs with out killing it cuz no exp.
2. You not picking loot cuz you not killing
3. You not log in.

In this game it is very hard to get strong build, because of uber unigues. It’s cheap way to do games with one hit bosses. You don’t have think anything. Players are they who suffers.

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Hi A big thanks to you I have killed her :grinning: :grinning: :grinning: :grinning: :grinning:

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Yes. The insta-kill abilities are just stupid. What is it, Super Mario on Nintendo 64, some 30 years ago?

Except there, you could avoid the little turtles. Here, Lilith just spams the screen full of aoe that is way too fast and has way too poorly defined edges.

Why do I have armor & resists? Why do I have damage reduction?

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Regardless how good or bad you are, one shot mechanics that are not clearly and easily avoidable should have no place in ANY 2023 game.

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Listen, u gotta get good.
Here’s a guide: www.getgood.real
just try it.
anyone who thinks lilith is unfun should uninstall diablo 4.

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No, I can now routinely kill echo of Lilith with my HOTA barbarian.

However, the issue is much different to me: it was a hard battle at first and I had to reach a certain point to get there… and what a surprise when i see… that Lilith has 0 drop ! Not 0 like bad items… 0 like NO items at all

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From Us-Forum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7uef5DNL0c

I’m being ironic about Lilith. I think they made it unfun and for no real reason. She should be hard but something you do when you are well into 100 and have some stuff.
I prepared for Duriel and tried dealing with him solo as soon as possible. That goal was fairly realistic but Lilith isn’t. Doesn’t matter how good gear you got, you still get one-shot and then you have to practice the encounter a lot or go with an op build that one-shot her before she one-shot you. Neither is fun, it’s pointless for anyone but an over-achiever. But I don’t want to throw stones at people, I think it’s impressive killing her but it’s not a reasonable goal.

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Lillith should not have a one shot instead they should rework her and give her enrage time in terms of she is not gonna drop you or anything in that fight is not gonna drop you HP potion
it should have high % resist req and DMG req
so if you not met those you gonna struggle and she slowly enrage when you run out of potions or you don’t have DMG and you gonna get hit hard if you have not caped your resist and DMG reduction
This boss should be strict with numbers but not ONE SHOT
Like UBERS in POE are not gonna one shot you if you have all what is needed to fight them
DMG reductions/resists good dmg everything min maxed
Boss should hit your hard and stagger you HP but never one shot you cause where is the fun in that? :smiley:
Isn’t ARPG about building a OP char to destroy boss?
And even if there is One shot it should take longer for her to do it you know so you can react

I did try out Uber Lilith and then I stopped completetly so I dont bother to waste time. It is not part of diablo, never been coz it is not World of Warcraft which it means you made it worse than you think.

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That fight was no fun indeed. I´m perfectly fine with boss attacks that are either not tankable, or not reliably kiteable, but not both at the same time.
The worst part is that as long as any of her summons is on the field, either demon or blood blister, she keeps dissapearing and spamming instakills. You need either ridiculous single target dps to melt her first phase before she summons anything, and/or ridiculous AoE dps to kill all summons, and all blisters they leave behind in two hits.
Trying to figure out and actually play the mechanics completely backfired on me.
I was only able to do this by copying a meta build…nothing could be further from a gratifieing victory.

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