I'm playing summoner necromancer. It's not that bad

Necromancer
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I have 2 full summoner necromancers, level 73 (HC) 80 (SC) , both with a completely summoner-focused build.

I don’t understand many of the current complaints. My summons are alive 99% of the time, and I’ve literally only seen the blood golem die 2 times between levels 50-80. To be honest, my only current complaint is that sometimes the summons spread out too much, making it difficult to focus, but that has improved a lot in the latest patch with the curses.

Here are some tips:
1º Maximice Golem mastery, inspiring leader, bonded in essence, death defense, and hellbent commander in the skill tree, also the skeletal mages/warrior and golem mastery. Death’s Reach and ‍Death’s Embrace are really good too.

2º And most important, on the paragon board “cult leader”, max literally every rare and magic node for the summons (+dmg, -dmgtaken, +attack speed, armor, etc…), best page by far for that build, and my summons nearly never die.

3º Use Deadraiser Glyphh on top right “cult leader board”, to improve a lot those 2 rare nodes, (it gives a lot of minion dmg and dmg reduction, it buffed my minions a lot).

4º Make sure to use using the following 3 legendary aspects:
-1 [Aspect of Frenzied Dead]
-2 [Aspect of Hardened Bones]
-3 [Unyielding Commander’s Aspect] (optional if you are playing Army of the death like me).

5º In weapons and armor, always look for the following stats whenever possible:
-Minion attack speed
-Minion life
-Minion +% dmg or -%dmg taken
-Critical chance
-Critical dmg
etc…

To conclude, I would like to say that not all internet guides have absolute truth, and there are many errors in the builds of the most well-known websites. I can perfectly solo and ‘quickly’ handle nightmare dungeons that are +10-15 levels above my character without much trouble, and I can easily kill the Butcher every time he spawns.

Apologies for my English, and I hope these tips can help you all. Have a nice day!.

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I used to play with minions too. I had put all skill points possible to improve their damage and health. The same with all paragon points. I had gear that improved minion health. I had aspects that gave them damage reduction.

And that did improve them. But not enough.

I am currently level 100, and I tried a tier 50 dungeon (mob lvl 106 I think?)
If there is a lot of shit going on at the same time THEY MELT and they do near ZERO damage in a T50 dungeon…

If you go all out on minions like I did, you should expect them to be MUCH better in damage and survivability. But from my experience, they had neither. I would expect the minions to be near immortal when you spec all out on them like I did… because they are supposed to survive MUCH higher tiers, but they barely survive T50.

I had multiple moments where the ONLY thing I did was to spam resurrect my minions because they died faster than I could resurrect them.

This is utter nonsense. How the developers (or however is deciding this) have missed out on this is just bizarre.

There needs to be a MAJOR buff (1000% of percentages) on the minions HP and Damage if you go all out summoner spec. Otherwise minions will remain complete garbage.

Remember: You should be able to push MUCH higher tiers than your current level, and your minions MUST be able to survive more than a few seconds. But they don’t.

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Because folks expect the summoner builds to play the game for them on it’s own, which is clearly no the case as you have to be proactive for it to work.

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Its not the problem that minions aren’t viable, the problem is that they aren’t competitive. Sure you can get level 100 with Summoner Necromancer eventually, meanwhile some Rogue will get this 10 times faster with much less effort.

The only thing which makes minions anyhow competitive is a single unique Ring of Mendeln and many of us probably won’t get this ring for months.

My question for you is why you are satisfied with being mediocre spec?

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I am satisfied with this ‘mediocre build’ because I am achieving all my goals in softcore and hardcore. And more importantly, I am enjoying the game like a little child, it’s been a long time since I had this much fun with a game.

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Proactive? How? If you end up in situations with lots of elites with all kinds of effects going on… and they are dying like flies… how exactly do you propose you should deal with this?

Because when this happens, you simply cant do much else but just spam resurrect and it usually just ends up with you dying. The skeletal priests cant keep up, and they are also way too slow to actually heal.

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I’m glad that you enjoy it. I used to enjoy it also in beta really much, but now I feel like babysitter rather than commander of the dead :slight_smile:

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Im glad to hear you enjoy summons.
I did to, untill i reached end game.

But Show me!
I insist you to prove that you kill Butcher 15 levels above you, without any kind of “wierd bug abuse on pilars ect” I bet you cant do it. He will straight up fuck you up.
The pets dont do enough damage to kill him b4 you run out of healing potions.

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