Is this just lost ark 2?

We are mad because the game has multiple towns and cities ? What ? Having only one town wasnt even the case in D2. I think if this game plays like a remix of Diablo and Lost Ark but with better graphics and performance and with out the crappy predatory honing system we are in very good shape.

You say this like “Lost Ark” is a bad game. Its a good game taken down by f2p monetization. This is classic Blizzard they took Magic and made Hearthstone. They took Everquest and made WoW. Where have you been the last 25 yrs ? This is what they do. They steal good ideas and remix them and usually do it better than the people they steal from. I think we got a good game on our hands I just hope for more complexity in the skill tree. I feel like on Rogue I could come up with 1 melee and 1 range build that actually worked well and the rest of the abilities needed work. Didnt blow me away like im not craving to play it or anything which maybe isnt a good sign but it felt pretty good like a 8/10? Just needs more work on early build diversity imo. Some skills are completely useless.

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Didn’t even honor your post by reading one word. What is a lost ark. Lol.

I agree with everything you said, except the last bit. Having played recently in the Early Access, I started with a Barbarian for my first ‘playthrough’. Did not look at any build guides, mechanics, forum posts or anything prior to that. Despite that, shortly after hitting lvl 25, I had a build that was doing ~2-3k damage a second to most enemies. Then, when fighting the World Boss, I felt like I was often the only one doing damage because I could just facetank the ENTIRE time(of course positioning myself around the boss to avoid its attacks but still being ‘in range’). Can’t say the same for the other players/classes. The Barbarian lacked some DPS but because of the World Boss’s large area attacks(that often arc out), he can easily get out of the way because he is so close to the boss.

For me somehow is similar to Immortal, Diablo 3 , about items identified is ok, don’t need to use a scroll as always.

what i feel is that is not enough as expected, its just a beta but, map function, social, character info during game, general tutorial , not enough right now.

i could not understand if there is a way to invite another player , generally for what i saw these two days i’m not satisfied at all, just a bit confused.

lost arks combat is much supirior to diablo 4. The combat in lost ark is fantastic and the skillsystem is great as well.

lost ark, never the less is a bad game in the end because it has 3 major flaws:

  1. too few combat times. rarely you are actually fighting hordes of monsters as everything at the end is raid focused
  2. game is pay to win and you need to play 18 chars per day to keep up
  3. you are hard gated by raid and cannot progress any further if you are not raiding or you get bussed

also amazon decided to destroy the game with their atrocious service.

diablo 4 is good but the combat feels not great and for me it has also not enough combat although much better than lost ark.

the need to improve the skills or i am bore even trying the game

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Dialogs and cutscenes are skippable.
But there is a bug where sometimes it did not work for me in Borderless windowed mode. Sometimes had to click somewhere outside of diablo 4 and then back in diablo 4 again to be able to skip stuff.

There was a crafting system in the main city once you unlocked your first aspekt from one of those dungeons. It allowed you to put those aspekts from dungeons on gear you found. Also you could extract the “special powers”(Aspects) from legendary items and store them in your inventory to place them on different items.
Also the same npc allowed you to reroll stats on items. Randomy switching “+fire dmg” to “+cirt chance” and so on.

Or if you meant spending some materials to get some random item. there was a gambling npc in the same town.

Youre acting like Diablo was a bad game and needed lost ark. They didnt need to steal anything, because they had an original AARPG that is one of the most succesful franchises of all time, that instead of just making a better one are trying to transform it into a lost ark style open world MMO? I played alot of lost ark and enjoyed it until the end game which was p2w and trash. But this open world, preset respawning monsters, just isnt Diablo.

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This is the way aprgs are now even PoE. Youll always have D2 Remastered but this is kind of the way we are headed with everything being a live service now.

Diablo 1, diablo 2 and diablo 3 were only bits and pieces of a world in conflict, not the entire world. The dev team wanted to go with a fully immersed ARPG instead of endgame being regurgitating random map/boss spawns on repeat for hundreds of hours.

To say it is a LA clone is the equivalent to calling it a POE clone should they have followed their formula used in the last 3 games. (endgame = farm bosses and maps thousands of times)

We also don’t know what the endgame is going to be, you’ve seen 1 zone of the how many?

its live service game so yes it will be shitshow just like lost ark gj blizz

К сожалению снаряжение далеко от д2, так как здесь конкретные параметры привязаны к определенной вещи, убрали пояс, менеджмент упростили не в лучшую сторону… теперь одно кольцо или камень занимает место как двуручная коса… камни давно пора разместить в отдельный слот для хранения… предметы сделать более свободными в параметрах… что бы на любую вещ мог выпасть необходимый параметр а не только для штанов… навык к необходимому умению… ветка развития выглядит красиво но только выглядит… она такая же линейная как была в д2… сколько лет диабло 2??? сейчас 2023 год… неужели нельзя было сделать что то более свободное?? а не 2-3 вида развития для класса…у меня такое впечатление что разработчики изменили лишь внешний вид и взяли не лучшие относительно текущего года из предыдущих игр серии + wow вместо того что бы создать действительно стоящее и передовое продолжение линейки этой великолепной серии :frowning: игра стоит 70 евр в минимальном издании но в ней нет ничего для такой стоимости а многие вещи отталкивают.

В данный момент не работают некоторые параметры у персонажей из за чего урон такой как критический не работает вообще. Является лишь цифрами в статистике… Как долго еще это продлится??? когда разработчики обратят на это внимание???

Problem is we don’t even know how endgame in D4 gonna play out.

Try to compare D3 annoucement and hype videos to D4 ones. But also try to imagine you never played D3 before.

Are we really that hyped up about random events occuring in the open world?Didn’t we have events in D3 too?

Are we hyped up about the bounty tree?D3 bounty system seems better + you can do unlimited amount of bounties.

Dungeons in D4?Well you can consider rifts and greater rifts dungeons as well,only difference in D3,you don’t have to walk through the whole map to reach different dungeons.

Dont get me wrong,i love D4,and im gonna be playing it 15-20 hours a day,but man,they tried to sneak same stuff we have seen in every game ever,as something new and innovative.

D4 doesn’t feel nor play anything like Lost Ark, there are so many differences that I find it rather pointless to say what they are. You can skip every convo and cinematic, you’re aren’t forced to watch/listen to them in the slightest, quests have always been denoted by an exclamation mark just like how bosses have always been denoted by a skull the fact that the dungeon symbol is a portcullis gate doesn’t mean anything.

Each “zone” has their own main city that the teleport will send you to but there are towns that also have a waypoint that are scattered throughout the world. I don’t see this as a bad thing, D3’s waypoints acted more like checkpoints than anything and if D4 wants to move away from that then I don’t see why not. There’s more to the game than the “event” side quests from previous games, there’s actual dialog with NPC’s which makes the world more immersive. Quests that give backstory and foresight into the towns situation, how they’ve fought tooth and nail to protect what little they have left.

The teleport system isn’t hard to understand, if you want to go to the main city you press T (or whatever it is for console). If you want to go to a town, you press the map and click on the town you want to go to. It’s not hard to get the hang of it. The “cities” in D3 were refuges, people huddling together to survive those still exist but are now actual towns. The cities like the one we have in the Fractured Peaks, Kyovashev is an actual city in its entirity not some destroyed shell of one that has people mulling about wondering if they’re going to die tomorrow.

We’ve only leveled to 20/25, the champion/elite pack affixes are limited just like how they were in D3 because of our level. When we’re level 100 it can be assumed that they’ll have multiple buffs rather than just one.

What do you mean you’ve yet to recognize any character? You meet Lorath within the first hour and he was from D3.

I just bought the 100 euro pack and i got no regret, to any ppl that only cry about everything i hope you dont play the game, i dont need you in my game.