Title, they weren’t great before the patch and instead of being better via the Mendalin fix they’re worse, somehow.
Maybe instead of inorganically forcing us to play your preference for builds by literally breaking every other option by de coupling synergies and ninja nerfs to paragon tree (deathspeakers would be a great example of this in another minion build, or Blood/Bone Spear) you could just let us play what we want.
Blood wave was going to be #1 for pit pushing for sure, and probably the best bet for uber farming and early introduction to the late game. Once a player is past that early part as I am, we like to swap different builds for different content. I’d like to use a minion build to farm T4/low level glyph runs.
I have Helm of Perdition, Grandfather, Blood moons, Shroud of false death. Mendelin check and I’ve got a decent Ring of Sacrilig, along with max masterwork on the Mythics and everything else tempered, which should be good enough for T4. This feels markedly worse than a few seasons back when pets were king. Literally 1/8th the strength, and in that season I had zero, zero mythics to use in the build.
Fire the DEI idiots. These people fix something 10 others break and their philosophy of design is pure trash. I like a bit of power creep but if we’re going to be speed farming 150s already (epic fail on the companies part) you could at least let people do low level but mandatory content with other builds that are fun and showcase other areas of a classes toolkit. Minions are great for world content, or should be. Blood Surge is great in Tormented Waves, or should be. Both should be good for lower level pit farming, up to 100-110. After that if someone benefits from switching to Blood Wave so be it, because it’s the stronger build.
This whole thing were we have a fun series of builds that get scrap heaped based on intentionally bad coding root cause terrible design philosophy is garbage. Stop it.
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Yep, it seems something did break to fix the ring. Isn’t it enough that we are slow and minions are even dumber then moldy bread but killing damage ? Rlly?
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I regret coming back for this season because of how ineffective minions now feel 
been my favourite to play since D2 and in D4 i’ve managed to complete every season my own way with my own build based around Skeletons, this time however I can’t. Partly because of this, but also because they made the destroyer objectives far more difficult this time round, I can barely scrape t4 without changing to a meta build so the time-based objectives in t4 and the 75 pit are undoable currently for me. The fun of diablo 4 for me thus far was being able to mess around with builds, try the new season features etc and complete the journey, but this season it feels like it’s forcing you into meta just to get the flagship pet of the season =/
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“Fire the DEI idiots” oh we found a tRumper. . .
You can just ignore his whining. Nothing will ever satisfy these people, because they like to whine.
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Yeah that DEI hate is bonkers. First they broke Mendeln then fixed that and broke something else - at what point is DEI even a thing is a mystery only known to him.
The point still stands Minion necro is gutted and weaker for no reason.
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Not really, you’re talking to someone who experienced smoother bug free games from the same company in 2008. Wrath of the Lich King had less bugs than this. They weren’t super great back then, but they’re objectively worse now, by a long shot.
That is 100% on the ‘talent’ and if that talent is worse (hint: they are) you get this hot mess.
Lets be real for a second, if this was launched as early access both expansions then the reception to the game would have been a lot better.
BTW a year and a half later Death Speakers ammy still suffers from the same bug affecting Mendalin. At a certain point the staff has to be seriously looked at, D3 was coded better than this mess.
Oh and as it turns out the patch that was supposed to fix Mendalin didn’t even do that. So yeah, calling out the hiring practice for talent when no talent is actually visible in the product seems like a good place to start brother. What about you, keep going with the same staff that have proven numerous times that they can’t fix these issues or swap out?
I’m pointing out the DEI thing b/c even 8 years ago you wouldn’t have seen this level of coding mistakes. Don’t like it, too bad because it seems to be the truth. This isn’t a work from home company, famously so it isn’t that nonsense causing the issues.
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From our party my friend started anew with a barb (i forgot what build), my wife took sorc (blizzard) and i stayed necro but changed the build to blood wave. It is just a joke. Minion necro is so weak compared to all of them i am not sure what Blizzard is doing, if anything at all. Who at Blizzard decided to make all minions Joe Biden - sometimes doing something without anybody understanding what and why, moving weird and without purpose, stumble occasionally and sometimes staring blank at you.
I mean it, even with good gear, decent paragon and high glyphs (70+) and capped witch power, minion necro is behind almost all builds. I watched a WW barb walking by and doing more damage then all my minions combined, a spiritborn dropped on the blood maiden i already fought for 20 seconds and erased her HP-bar in one go.
Can we have at least have a patch that fixes mendeln and blood moon breaches and the interaction of sacrifices of minions ? I do not ask for the fix of the “Joe Biden”-AI from minions but comon the items and the paragon board needs to work.
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I nearly forgot to mention but there was a setup with necro that allows for a 100 clear with mainly witch power as the damage driver.
I get that the WPs are rife with bugs and that minion necro isn’t number one but that’s sad. A build group that used to clear pit 120+ struggling with 80s now, while borrowed power seems far stronger than some of the build options. This is a mistake.
I read on the American forum that if you switch off reanimation, damage output will be higher.
From this : Minion and Mendeln Bugs Persisting After Patch - PC General Discussion - Diablo IV Forums
Yes, I did this when the hot fix was implemented and saw a power spike right away. I’d love if it was all the way fixed.
Hola, también hay un problema ya que cualquier Buff que diga “aumenta la velocidad de ataque de los CADAVERES” no le da el buff a los ESBIRROS … El códice, Paragon y armamento no sirve si dice la palabra CADAVER
Yes. I regret reading this having read that.
yes.
And hey, psst: eat at mcdonald’s and vote Rascal for king.
if rascal was king, none of this would’ve happened.