Necros are hands down the worst class

Needs buffs ASAP!
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Abandon the Simp Army and embrace the Bone Zone. Bone Spear build is insanely fun and it absolutely melts dungeons.

Just go play a sorc and be 100x stronger lol.

From a common sense standpoint summoner necro will never be viable endgame since some elites have auras that increase defenses and the dogwater minion AI will never target them. I just laugh when I use my bone golem taunt right next to an elite mob only for the golem to then run off for some distant ranged enemy.

Necromancer Summoner = Send in the :clown_face:'s

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I am actually rocking a hybrid build with summons and bone spear, I cant let go of my army yet, perhaps with 80+ :c

What level/WT does Minion/Shadow get bad? I played it until lvl55/WT3 and it just melts everything. I only changed builds because it was getting boring.

So you comment on lvl 55 wt3… As well when ppl cry some classes are op on beta, where max lvl was 20… Now we know whu’s blame for that ;p.

Yes minions dps is low, you can put all %dps, and have everything for minions, and with this same numbers other clases do mln dps, and you, at all can do 300k max! (with only minions). So add to this minions AI, and they focus on low hp/dps targets and you are 1v1 with boss and minions run around xD. Also when you fight elites with aoe dps, or aoe dot dps, you can forget your passiv with 70% reduced dps for minions will work. They die faster than your priest can heal them. With passiv at all they can die in 4th hit, but its faster. Also elites where you have Bubble, mages stay outside and hit bubble xD. Or when you do dungeons with shadow missisle, which blind you and dps, when minions got hit by this, and get blind, they don;t go outside of it they just stay there (0 focus, 0 AI, they are blind and do nothing, also they do not follow you). Fight with any elit is a mistake, they have aoe dps mods, they spawn any aoe dps or stun,fear,blind etc areas and minions just stay in this area and die, or get stun. Also there are so many things, that you can’t do with minion build, and in my opinion is shame if you put summoner class which at all can;t play as summoner :open_mouth:

@edit so for me, 100 lvl race should be only for necromancers. Because its realy huge challange. This class is unplayable right now as a summoner. Other builds… If you need to be caster and looking for dps, wizzard is better option (faster regen and higher dps). You have to sacrafice summons to get bonus, but if you do, you don;t have posybilisty to generate essence or corp. But if you chose to have reapers, to help you hold corps, you never see them, because you have to focus on resummon them. So it’s like resummoning simulator. Also! When I fight word boss, we have limited amount of corps… Yes, so when you spawn corps on any area, and boss move, old corps disappear.

@edit2 To fix problem with elits bubble, it should be possible for summons to hit monster, if they are outside of bubble, when we are inside bubble. I think that is the best.

How do you manage not having any essence when using bone spear? I found it to be a essence management game.

Your frozen mages can generate it for you which ech attack.

I specced 3/3 into Grim Harvest and I’m using the “Bonestorm consumes corpses to add duration” legendary. Combined with Blood Mist triggering Corpse explosion, this does add up in a fight.

i wish i didnt go for necro tbh
but at lvl50 im too invested now. dont want to restart on another character when i havent even finished the story on this one

ive even tried copying shadow summoner build from the wowhead and i still get melted

really shouldnt have to copy another build to get enjoyment tbh.
i expect that sort of meta stuff in very high tiers like 3 and 4. not 2

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I think you’re just doing your build wrong or you’re equipping the wrong items. Just because a weapon has a higher level, doesn’t mean you should equip it if you end up losing +30% damage in your main skill.

I’ve been waltzing through everything (first Shadow/Minion, now Bone Spear) until the lvl70 Keystone dungeon. Running around WT4 at lvl61 is a bit tricky, but doable.

lvl 60 is not really a measurement of anything. You barely came out of leveling, just wait for 80s and 90s and you will understand. This whole “you are building wrong, git gut” can take you only so far and is used mostly by low level ppl. Take WW barb for example, leveling is dogcrap and endgame is S tier even after the nerfs. As necro on endgame, you will feel like a WW barb during leveling. This game for some reason really favors movement abilities and speed, which necro doesnt have. Not only that, later on it gets even slower as there are really only 2-3 good builds that require some setup before you do dmg.

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it might be the opposite, that im using legendaries that are 10 levels lower than my current level

im still using them because of certain aspects (creating a barrier etc) and ive found no ingredients to extract and imprint the aspects onto another item
maybe those ingredients dont unlock until tier 3+??

im not sure the designers intended someone to only complete upto act2 and be lvl50 doing it through mostly exploration and side quests

Necromancer briefly explained, no mobility no point in using minions (whole point of the class) one build with good dmg but boring to play and squishy as all hell. I am currently level 66 and just realized how bad it was don’t bother playing this class unless you want to be the ultimate edgelord.

u can extract imprints from i think it was lvl 25 , there was a quest to visit the enchanter

i hate bone build , simply go crit and GG

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If you use barrier it’s mean you do build wrong :O… You need 1-2 def aspects, 1-2 (or lucky hit) for essence keep on good lvl, and all other aspects for dps. And to feel strong with good def you have to focus at last on 1-2 afixes on few items (like legs chest, and amu), move speed on boots and amu, and full dps on rest items…