We played pvp alot and 2 barbarians (52lvl ww build and 90lvl thorns build + razorplate)
the 52 lvl barbarian was oneshotted on the spot by the 75lvl rogue
90lvl thorns barb did almost no damage, all time was on ground and control impared until death with Iron Skin 5lvl(and remove effects imprint) and lvl9war cry, lvl7 Challenging Shout, lvl11 Rallying Cry shouts and that pvp lasted 2-3 sec, the poison i had was saying i am already dead so right after the iron skin was finished (it heals me)
i had 2 options, run slowed/stunned try to avoid hit, charge him with no effect
all my items have thorns even heart 24.000 return damage after my defensive skill is enabled and with gems giving more thorns plus 9k thorns from razorplate + passive skills thorns
the opponent was immune to thorns his life was always blue like even with lung shot and lvl 9 steelgrasp 4 charges did nothing.
my items give me full stats too 900str and all other stats are 420±
buffed i can reach 14k damage, 12k life, 9k armor and i had potion for another 900 armor that was almost 10k
my question is simple, why out of 20 pvps, i did not even remove his barrier and he could one shot the other guy why is rogue so good?
let me note that i have 750.000 red dust, i have become Hatreds chosen many times, and until i realize there is a cap of 750.000 i could not burn the seeds and i was dropping them right after i tried to purify them, there was no tip, message or any short kind of thing to tell me IDIOT YOU CANT HAVE MORE, thank you for making me thing this was a bug, and now i have no interest in going for pvp since i get lose only and no point to gather seeds since my cap is done (750.000) bought all items, and there is no reason to buy more items, very interesting to discover there is a decline path after lots of pvp!
Throns barbs in PvP should be perma marked with cringe title. Hopefully we will see some adjustments to that in next season.
Your entire post is hard to decipher however what happened there is probably you got killed by rogue poison which is DoT (throns do not reflect DoT damage)
so thorns build is garbage is what you saying, thanks that solved it.
my life of 10k++ was full green and indicates that i am dead after my barriers and heals go down, and all that in just a fraction of a second indicates perfect balance without cringing correct?
stats: we are not even discussing them since they dont even matter from what i understand in most games
str: damage/life ++
will power: should negate effects and elemental damage (lightning, poison, earth, fire, wind, water/ice)
int: mana
dex: miss, dodge, attackspeed, runspeed
even in diablo 2 where i come from this list is working as should
in conclusion what is happening here is poison kills you so who ever has it wins
no matter the build or stats
reflect damage should do what says, reflect type of damage received multiply from your thorns percent and additions damage you have like all games, otherwise its not reflection by definition, plus should give status defense but this is diablo… expectations are low