why on earth did you feel the need to let EVERY single elite mob PERMA cc you if you EVER get hit once?
then you put in an abuse counter mechanic to that, that only some classes can enjoy?
how are you supposed to play some classes like melee necromancer in this game? all i have is blood mist which is nice, but i deal little to no dmg while in mist and then when its down im instantly cced and dead?
dont get me started on your affixes in nightmare dungeons, why make something so god damn annoying, didnt you learn your lesson from world of warcraft? affixes should be FUN, not ANNOYING beyond belief.
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This game relies heavily on evading attacks as much as fighting the mobs. Just get some boots that adds an extra evade charge or two, reposition yourself and keep fighting.
There are also bonuses that decrease the amount of time you are CC’d which help a lot.
My druid is naturally quite a slow character compared to a rogue and I feel sometimes that i’m evading more than attacking but at least it gives my cooldowns a chance to run out.
In short you need to find a playstyle that you can master, no guide can tell you how to do that, it can suggest things but unless you try them out to see which fits you as a player you will struggle.
Try not to get too frustrated and dedicate your time to trying to find solutions to things your character lacks. Read everything you can on rogues and their builds as maybe you can “Frankenstein” a build that deals with your characters short commings.
Above all, Don’t Give Up.
Have a good one.
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your druid has permanent unstoppable my dude.
The problem isn’t unstoppable, many Barbarian builds had perma unstoppable in D3 and while it was obviously very good, the issue is with D4 having unavoidable crowd control and many monster abilities with poor visibility.
In Diablo 3 the CC was far more balanced and easier to see. In D4 the CC is basically not something you can game around so the ONLY solution is unstoppable, which is why it’s a problem.
and i swear sometimes a wind up attack that i know will cc me, i dodge and the mob turn with me and hit me? i dont mind getting cced if i knew i messed up.
but getting perma chased by a mob with 25x your movespeed that every attack they do cces you for ages. all cc should be telegraphed and dodgeable.
Nope I don’t think it does otherwise I would never be crowd controlled ever and believe me I get it a lot.
There are always answers to what characters lack you just have to find the right answer for your rogue. It must be possible otherwise every other rogue would also be constantly CC’d too. As we know the rogue is pretty top tier in regards to people playing as one.
Like I say look through items, skills, passives every mechanic possible to find the one that allows you to continue. It’s worth spending time for.
Some sites worth a read
Fextralife
Diablo wiki
Icy veins
Maxroll
pure diablo.
Have a look through some of those as the thing you need may be utilised on a build somewhere.
Good luck.
im not playing a rogue? im not looking for guides or tips.
Sorry I have no idea where rogue come from, my bad.
However the advice stand for all characters really, whatever the issue there is a solution.
Grizzly Rage (which many builds of druid are based on) gives you unstoppable.
its not only about finding solutions to disgusting mechanics, its about a game being enjoyable. this game seems more and more to be just unenjoyable and annoying.
I don’t really see an issue with mobs CCing me.
All I want is just diminishing returns being added to the game so I can’t be stunned several times in a row.
its a big issue when you seemingly cant tank any cc, you have immune it and run or your dead.
im playing a high hp full fortified melee blood surge necro and i can die in 1 sec if i get cced. YOU HAVE TO NEVER GET CCED. thats it.
i made a post about this a little bit ago call chain stunning/freezeing
i remember geting kill by the cold infused mod because his freeze attack was faster then geting out of the stun so i had nothing i could do as my build don’t have unstopable in it
that need to be a timer that stops you from being chain stuned/frozen
I don’t use grizzly rage, my druid consists of items that makes bear skills also count as earth skills. I use the lightning storm ultimate (can’t remember the name) and the natures fury passive. I also have a thing where bear skills will sometimes launch a nature spell of the same class as the bear skill I use and my pulverise also casts a shockwave when used.
So basically it utilises bear, earth, storm and other nature skills. It works well for me at the moment as everything I have synergises with everything else in the build.
There was no guide for this I just got it by playing around and wondering what would happen if I did X whilst I have Y equipped.
Experimentation is key.
I think what OP is trying to say is that it kinda feels very frustrating for some classes to play around crowd control in a high tier NM, as when you get CCd you just die. I would like to have the liberty not to run 3 skills that make my Sorcerer unstoppable, but it feels really hard not to when normal mobs like spiders can just kill you if you don’t pay enough attention. I almost have no problems with this, but it sure is frustrating to be CCd to death when playing something as a necro.
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imagine only having 1 unstop that also turns you into a shi* mist and you deal no dmg during the entire duration.
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For Necro there are 3 builds that use Blood mist that I have found on maxroll
Sever, Bone Spirit and Bone Spear builds. Maybe have a look to see if there is something in those builds that can help you out or give you an amazing idea?
I know you say you don’t want tips etc but I don’t really see another way of helping you out.
Unfortunately I can’t post the links so you’ll need to find them by going to maxroll dot gg to read them.
Every top player who plays Rogue is complaining about the CC issue in this game, all the top streamers have been vocal about it since the beta.
Bloodmist is amazing, it’s probably the sole reason that Necromancer was able to solo Uber Lilith.
so how do they get past it to continue playing or have all the streamers stopped playing rogue ? Sorry I don’t watch twitch or other streams so am a bit behind on that side of things.
I AM USING blood mist my dude, its unplayable 100% withotu it. atleast read what people write if you wanna act like the tips guy.