Also add back the greed level with dozens of goblins, and where is the damned cow level
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Not even sure what this means. What does AFK in town have to do with rifts?
There was far more to do in D3 than just GRs⌠quit lying.
D2 stuck around because certain minds are just broken in a special way. There is very little positive to say about addiction.
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I donât lie. If there were you would point them out.
Afk in townâŚâŚyou have 0 interactions with the rest of the game AT ALL! just standing in town, click an obelisk and start doing a race killing , rinse and repeat!!! Just that. Again 0 interaction with the rest of the game. Did you go out of the town? No unless if want to the bounty that gives you the ring that lowers the set items needed. And thatâs it.
PD2 made far better end game system and was just a mod on top of the original D2.
Deny it as much as you want. It doesnât change the facts tho. I donât say donât bring another end game system in the game, all is say is that they need to take ideas from the successful game of the franchise (D2) and not from the game that takes the last patch ever, as blizz announced for D3, for obv reasons.
If they make the cellars, ALL the dungeons farmable, with kinda unique way, to add tombs where we can find bosses like Andariel or Duriel to farm, this will give a whole new farming diversity to the game.
See. A falsehood.
How is this NOT interacting with the game? This is actual content. In the game. Involving players. This isnât AFK.
âBut itâs not lame-ass D2 boring content same as last 20000 times I played these same areas in that old game that Iâm super addicted to!?â - what the actual⌠!?
This is a non-argument. Itâs a literal whine from someone stuck sometime in early 2000s and chugging memberberries.
Thereâs a reason why people to this day play D3 even tho thereâs nothing to do besides GRâs.
I met tons of people just in S28 alone. Easy grouping up,you are never alone if you donât want to be.
D4 OPEN WORLD ARPG GAME,without at least general chat in 2023âŚYou have to look for people on third party sites,instead of doing it instantly ingame.
D4 is an unfinished game,its obvious by now. Instead of finishing game properly,they chopped it up in God knowâs how many pieces,and they are gonna try to sneak (something that we were supposed to have at the release) as expansion contentâŚ
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So much this. In HC and SC. Hundreds of new friends, always someone there to team up and play.
D4 is crickets with grind. Lonely. Pointless.
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Something i liked A LOT in D3 is when i am bored ,i join low torments to boost people,either GRâs,keys or level boost. I know i helped them a lot and i feel good because i did something good for someone.
I tried to boost a friend in D4,what a boring sh*t show that was,and he got only 2 levels and ye,i wasnât able to share my gear,because items were 60-70 levels above his level (eternal realm,before latest patch)
Sadly you donât understand things so this convo seems so meaningless. I mean since you think interacting with the rest of game beside doing GRs, when doing GRsâŚ. Wtf?
If you argue is ok, I donât cause you never played D2, while you have an opinion 
I am far from stucked in 2000 cause I find D2R with all these changes a spectacular game which came in 2021 but it has the design of another spectacular game which introduced in 1999 while D4 has the same bases as a design (gameplay, gothic environment, dark corners etc) but not the end game.
See now? Or you will gonna need more explanation? Anyway wonât continue this, cause is totally pointless chat with you. Have a great day
More people had fun with GRâs in D3 than with NM dungs in D4 and the fact everyone complains about NM dungeons and ââkill 5 blistersââ is self explanatory.
Never said otherwise. Both are terrible design, but one of them is less bad. 
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I understand perfectly. Youâve been playing a game for 20 years. That is⌠unhealthy.
Played on from release. The game did not hold up well. Itâs longevity was helped by the slew of mods which offered some interesting mechanics. Ultimately, the core game is dull. D2R is the same dull with tuned graphics.
This is not a 2021 game. Itâs a 2001 game with some changes. Same game. Same content. Same everything.
You really need to let go. D2 is not a great game.
The Witcher series on netflix was ruined because the people making the series wanted something different, they discarded the source material, fired the actor that actually was the witcher and made something terrible and I feel like blizzard is doing the same to diablo.
Diablo in its core is supposed to be killing demons in hell and diablo is supposed to be at the end of the game, when demons die they are supposed to drop loot not bingo cards and lottery tickets (rare items and legendary aspects).
Diablo 4 is not a diablo game it is a game, a bad game.
Obviously it hasnât aged well, which is why they gave us D2R.
However, whether or not the game is great, is all about personal opinions. Thereâs nothing objective about that whatsoever.
Heck, i still play FF VII and consider it one of the greatest FF games of all times. Doesnât mean others agree with me.
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Some nostalgia comes into play but it is basically objective, not many 20 year old games are loved enough to get a reboot/reskin, D2 was a VERY good game, and the itemisation alone makes D4 look terrible
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Totally agree with the op.
What I donât understand is the effort on the part of the devs to ânerfâ our characters whenever they can. Let me explain, in D3 raising the difficulty of the world or doing a high level Greater Rift all it does is buff the enemies (dmg and hp), in D4 doing a ND makes that our characters suffer penalties in resistances, damage, etc. So thereâs not that satisfying feeling that there in D3 when doing Greater Rifts or going to max Torment.
That game mechanic should not exist, because they donât apply it well. I love Elden Ring, Iâve had a blast with a melee build and the difficulty is well established. In Diablo 4 it seems that the devs are against what is fun and it seems that their goal is to create a negative feeling in the player.
Itâs not objective though. I think you meant to say subjective, because subjectively is based on personal preferences while objectively is factual and not based on any personal preferences.
For a new game, they definitely shouldâve done more with D4âs visuals.
Have you ever tried zooming in while playing D4? The texture on most things looks hideous. Like they havenât bothered texturing some stuff, which makes it look like low quality plastic.
Graphics ainât everything but weâre in 2023 and new AAA titles should at least look the part. D4 doesnât look good apart from our characters and armor pieces, even at max settings which is what iâm playing on.
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Itâs not like Bliz has an history of setting graphics standard, itâs good for a bliz game. D3 was ugly at release, D4 is just not made to play zoomed. My main grip is the ghost/wraith, they are just mesh with emissive and translucent material, that takes 0 skill to make, 5mn to set up in UE.
The last blizzard game that looked really good for its time is Diablo 1. I say Bliz game, but we all know itâs not the current bliz.
No I said objective and I meant objective,specifically referring to itemisation, and in most other ways, die hard fans or not 20 year old games dont get attention unless there is a reason to do so
There are things I like about D4, and if it had released in a proper, finished state with actual end game content I probably wouldnt be moaning at all, but as it stands, D2R is a better âgameâ at the moment in every single way aside from graphics
Although it seems that youâve responded to my post to say that D4 visuals suck while my post was about whether D2 was a good game or not, now im confused
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Exactly that. Feeling nostalgia or not, in D2 most of the drop mattered and I could trade something I donât need for something I need, no matter the item, (unique-runeword etc). Isnât perfect but imagine even that makes most games feel trash. Me personally I donât like the drop raining or the only choice of playing D4 from 1-100 to do only dungeons. Pfff
Double down on dungeons, introduce new resolutions based on valuable feedback do not make step back with introducing rifts. These are Diablo 3 flag feature which were polished and good but its in the past.