seems like sorcerer has taken a BIG step backwards! i’m a good player yet stuff is still 1 shotting me with everything capped like resistances and armour stuff in the game is just 1 shotting me xD and the evade teleports barrier no longer in game is REALLY annoying me. why has it been removed??? and i can’t find cooldown reduction on gear to save my LIFE
6 Likes
Unfortunately, Sorcerers and Rogues are far behind the rest this season… Many mechanics for the Sorcerer have been changed for the worse (not to mention that after the PTR, many changes were introduced that shouldn’t have been, weakening this class… once again, the character wasn’t tested in the end game, and speculations were based on early stages). Many changes from Season 3 impact the DPS fluidity in Season 4. The cast speed for the Sorcerer, which gave it an edge (lower DPS than the rest but a huge cast speed), has been reduced. The affix for Lightning Spear, which gives +1 extra spear, doesn’t work during Unstable Currents. Similarly, using abilities with cooldowns during this ultimate doesn’t trigger the passive skill that grants a barrier. A lot of cooldown reduction and mana regeneration is needed to maintain a proper mana level (which is very difficult), while simultaneously losing DPS… We also have very few passive skills/paragons that would give a chance for a critical hit… And as the only class that relies on lucky hits, most skills have a very low chance for a lucky hit… Currently, the meta for the Sorcerer is Fireball, as the only build that handles level 100Pit. However, compared to Druid, Necro, and Barb, it is much slower and requires precise positioning. In a word, the Sorcerer was “promised” to be an S-tier character, but in my opinion, it might be suitable for casual play without high-level Pit plans. As a boss killer or for “professional” gameplay, I think it’s a C-tier class (D<C<B<A<S). And I’m very sorry to say this, but Necro, Barb, or Druid at level 70 with just basic legendary items hit harder and have better mana sustain than a level 100 Sorcerer with uniques and farmed legendaries (with 1-2 stats at 150%). Despite the season being good, many “nerfs” from previous seasons are reflected in this one. Characters with higher DPS and multipliers have a better end game.
8 Likes
I’ve played sorc since game release and this is the worse i have seen it. i put so much dr into the character than i possibly could with all resistances capped and close to the 12.2k armor cap and i’m still being 1 shot in tier 45 pits and by the lvl 200 uber bosses. cdr, crit chance and mana re-gen is so hard to get to get on ALL gear make a fast lightning build work again but i have come across a few things that just feel very off with sorc and i hate it as sorc is the only class i really love i don’t wanna be a meta sheep an play necro xD
4 Likes
if you think sorc is bad try rogue, they’re the worst class right now. Sorc at least has some high dps capability, rogue just got nerfed to the ground since season 3
2 Likes
What level are you guys talking about? Im level 50 Rogue and can one shot entire mobs and dont have too much trouble with bosses. I am Squishy AF tho. My mate is Frozen Orb Sorcerer and can tank everything.
you prob have the bug from elixir, I’m talking about end game stuff like high tier pits and 200 uber bosses ect. i know my sorc well and it’s a step backwards
Fair enough, we have a long long way to go until we get to your level.
1 Like
not take long :)) all in all game is so much more fun!
Completely agree. I switched from Frozen Orb sorc to Bash Barb…night and day. Damage output from Barb is insane. And I still haven’t tried Necros. But I’m really not feeling Sorc this season, at all. May next one.
4 Likes
Sorc is a total joke this season, thanks Blizzard. I stopped playing now because of this. Kinda have best gear but cant even beat a lvl 61 pit or just with being lucky getting easy pit boss. Doing 400k crits with Blizzard Ice Spike build, where at the same time, Barb is face rolling doing 200 million crits and 1 shotting every boss at lvl 80-90 pit.
Also amazing, how I have to use 3 def legendary aspects PLUS abusing the Sorc key passive Vyrs Mastery JUST to use the 20% dmg reduction, and I am still dying all the time. I see nothing has changed for Sorc. Maybe D4 is decent in 2 years or so.
I mean how incompetent can the developers be, is it really so hard to DPS simulate each class just doing the same DPS? Is it so hard to simulate a class just doing DPS on a dummy, and see oh wait a second, Sorc is doing just 1/100th of the dmg than other class with same gear. Right…
1 Like
have to change build to be happy with her performance and i have to say she is Nice rn… lightning needs help xD the damage on most sorc skills are very weak but if you play with stuff you find nice elements of it
Ha, I never played sorc before, decided to try this season and I had a very hard time. Even clearing normal Duriel was pretty hard ^^ I thought I was just bad, but seemingly Im not the only one 
1 Like
the sorc i just made is doing very well! i always love sorcerer my only class 
1 Like
Firewall, arclash, inci, hydra takes effort to beat duriel
Frozen orb conjurer beats it ez
Arclah honorable mention for speed farming helltide. It destroys everything like 2 screens raduis with 2 swings and perma ult
Also seems fireball and firebolt have some potential. I wanna try ball lightning and chain lightning next
Were you complaining about sorcs face rolling everything in s2?
Not the point, look at necromancer now, Why do other classes OVERALL have to be terrible for 1 class to be Multiple Tiers higher. all classes currently are C and B tier. but Necromancer is S++ tier. there is no A or S tier currently.
They should really buff the other classes to get on the same level as Necro and then let people push themselfs to reach higher levels of Gameplay , gear etc. some people say nerf necro… i would not. i would just up everything else and create whole new levels of difficulty with bosses etc.
i mean atm its Diablo 4 Season of Necromancer. you can 2 second uber bosses. you can basicly just ‘’ Finish ‘’ The game… wich is hard to understand i know.
and everyone plays necro. its all you see ingame because the other classes cannot even get close to that kind of power in the seasons current state.
So basicly atm i have to roll necro to reach the highest levels of the pit. because i am fully aware and knowing that even tho i might have the best items and Be FULL Bis Gear on another class. it will not compete on necro levels.
Same goes for all seasons and all classes. The game is forcing you to play 1 class to even reach places were others have gone.
‘’ Edits were a typo ‘’ and will be many more
1 Like
Season is not over and more builds are being tested. Barbs seem to be emerging from A tier with some Thorn builds.
Frost Orb and Blizz are also considered S by many. I, for one, am having plenty of fun with my frost orb, high dmg, super fast and super tanky.
I had super fun with Sorc until I discovered at level 100 that my Chain Lightning does not gain any damage modifiers from my amazing gear. Until next Season then! Was fun week.
They better start caring their game design with Vessel Of Hatred. Every Skill Tree for each Class is unfinished.
3 Likes
frozen orb is amazing but electric feels so far behind fire and ice… I started on a electric build and had to swap just because it can’t do the damage like ice and fire builds
I went with Whirlwind Dust Devil Barb and it absolutely destroys everything! It has been by far my favorite run to 100. Barb is definitely my favorite class right now. I still want to try the Necro Minion build though.