Agreed. Diablo used to be about loot and builds. Now its forced timed events and dodging 1 shot mechanic.
Just for the reference once again: D2 has 385 Uniques, 93 Rune Words, 159 Set Items, 493 Base Items, 152 Cube Recipes, 178 Misc Items. They all got their places and uses. Are they perfect? No. But its damn lot more what every other Diablo games offer afterwards combined.
And most of D2 items got better versions in three different Difficulty levels.
D4 does not drop anything that looks interesting. Just plain and boring and simple Affixes mostly.
Also its funny that Rares are the least “rare” drop after "Legendaries, which should be even more uncommon.
Aspects belong in Skill Tree btw. And where are the Runes?
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I kinda agree with you for the most part. The game should be hard and reward grind. But it also sucks when you brick an 800 mil item like I just did. Getting a 800 mil item isn’t zero effort. I would happily have a gold sink of lets say 100 mil to reset the tempering or a super rare consumable that could only drop in like 100+ pit runs
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The Tempering and Masterworking systems are still new, they sort of released the early stages of it now in S4 and will likely alter it as time goes.
They do this alot, release an “idea” then alter it based on feedback.
It will change, we just have to endure it as it is for now.
masterworking is good RNG. tempering is bad RNG.
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There are 2 solutions in my opinion:
- a currency (or gold) that resets the tempering tentatives at 5
- instead of a currency a fixed number of items of the same types that we have to use in order to reset the tempering tentatives.
Pro: 1. RNG is still here, but in the long run you will find in that item the tempered affix you want 2. No rage quit and real feeling of improve the gear as the item won’t brick.
PS Hp 1: the new currency could be found in some activities we don’t do so often in end game (as Whispers or in a new higher level Nightmare Dungeon) in order to give new life to abandoned contents
PS2: If you really don’t want to change anything, at least if an affix I don’t want comes up, it not to come up again on the next attempt
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It’s taken me 2 days to pop a huge hole and and taken all the air out of “season of Reborn Loot” ,. Hot air is exactly what it was. Within days of chewing on bricked items AND rng am done
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another ring with greater affix in the trash as all it would roll is ice spikes -.-
I don’t understand why game designers think RNG is good design - for streamers and people that can afford to play all day, it makes for great viewing but for the rest of us it is just wasted time and effort. I really don’t mind effort, or grind, but the tempering system, as good as the intent is, is just horrible luck… I rolled the same minimum value, useless affix multiple times on really good gear and it’s just infuriating. I spent the time looking for that piece of gear and to throw it away because I can’t get a 1-in-4 chance after 5 chances is verging on conspiracy-theory levels of the absurd… And not just once but multiple, multiple times. It’s starting to feel like it’s about to become some Gacha game where you can pay “gems” for an extra 10% bonus to your roll …
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to be honest i just bricked a item worth 3b on trade site today because tempering… I hate the fact I cant earn a way to reset it with a spark or 1k mats or something. its what may do me in for the game
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Bricked an amazingly rolled item on my barb today, because of the three possible things tempering could roll, every. single. attempt. Rolled THE ONE stat, i had exactly NO use for in my build.
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My dude… this system is not a new idea. RNG upgrades been done dozens of time accross the industry. Even them as a company have done it before, in WoW, and it was universally HATED. Aand we are talking about the company that pioneered the genre. That this is not the way should have been clear as day to them
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hopefully they will make some kind of reset cost as they give us theses Amazing 3 star affix just to trash an item with wrong tempering over and over 
feels horrible scraping a ring with 3 stars because ALL it would roll is blizzard and ice spikes!!! >.<
Agreed, please add this, it punishes players who are learning a class/build who don’t know what they don’t know.
Example, I didn’t play PTR, and I don’t read build guides, for me the fun is in discovering the build and it becoming an evolutionary process.
I dropped a 3* 925 2H Axe on Barb STR/ML/DMG, pretty decent. At the time, I didn’t have a sandstorm temper, I didn’t even know it existed so I used my tempers to get wait for it… Double Swing size 
Anyway, you live and learn. But in those rare cases. It would be nice to reset a temper. Even if it’s a super rare material. Perhaps maybe even 1 spark. There are very few people who have massive numbers of sparks so the cost on this would be extremely high for most people thus making it an exceptionally rare occurrence used only in situations where something build breaking has happened on a very rare item.
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Agreed. I bought 4 or 5 +3 Skeletal Mage Mastery pants and all have been broken with the tempers. I think I broke about 80% of my gear so far. This tempering system as it is now, sucks.
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that’s upsetting i have had many items wasted
My suggestion is to add possibility to reset tempering, but make tempering scrolls non-reusable instead. So you could try tempering again but you have to find scroll again.
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blizz need’s to remake tempering…and replace the trash affixes -.-
rn just a reset would be AMAZING!! i have 3GA items completely useless… sad to see them sat in storage wasted because we have no way to reset… just failed ANOTHER item i reallllllllly wanted now is useless 
and i keeeep getting the SAME stats on temper OVER AND OVER IS A JOKE
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Add 2 more Tempering Affix rows. And let us create completely new ones.
once we temper that’s it! that item is bound to that build IF you are even lucky enough to get the stats you want for the build if you wanna change say from ice to electric you have to get all new items… they give us the greater affix items that MAJOURTY go to waste due to failed tempering… finding a 3GA item Just to have the same TRASH stat 3-4 times in a row just to scrap the item is depressing… i want to swap my build right not but i can’t unless i start a WHOLE new grind for GA items… think i need to log out an go sleep game stressing me the F out… also why does sorc have thorns on tempering what fkin sorcerer is using thorns? none thats how many >.<
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