To all those who demand an offline mod

The client is just a client. It gets packets, shows assets to screen according to them, takes inputs and send back packets about these. Updates Games states from server information. That’s it , no less, no more.
It doesn’t know sh*t about game mechanics. Everything is server side.

To all of us who bought the game, we KNEW it is and what we bought, at it stipulates an online connection and battlenet is REQUIRED to play the game.

Live with it. An “offline mode” would require full server emulation alongside with perfect reproduction of server side scripts and secrets.
And according to reverse engineering community, unless a leak happen, this is not happening not only anytime soon, but at all considering the complexity of the thing.

This is massive launch and those issues we have at launch were expected and despite my own frustration, knowing how hard these infrastructures are hard to manage at scale, not even talking about game design itself, and all the talent needed to make this works, this is more than a successful launch.

If we were to pay monthly fee for this “online service”, I would definitely think in another way, but this is not the case here. You have paid a one time fee for a game which despite this will evolve and grow without needing you to pay a penny (not considering DLC there, this would have been the case even in offline mode).

That had to be said.

Now you can burn me in flames.

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whosh a good little blizz lapdog? you are.

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Definitely, how could it be that someone taking a step back and not agreeing with you be anything else than a lapdog heh ? :slight_smile:

More flames please.

The mother needs blood.

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And what would a “regular” user (one in the middle between both: the “lapdog” and the “righteous knight that will never settle for less” like you) then look like? What should he be thinking about all of this? What arguments would he defend and on what foundations would these be based?

Just out of pure curiousity.
Indeed, I even feel a bit ignorant, and lost, if I have to start somewhere trying to draw the whole picture in my mind…

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It definitely COULD have been offline (as said, by design, it’s just too late now) and this would have been way more adapted to what may be at least close to if not a bit more than a majority of users, especially users that played diablo in the old days.

What I was pointing at iis that ASKING for an offline mode when you AGREED since the beginning that it will always require being connected as it is SOLD AS SUCH, is both hyprocrisis AND anyway not possible.

What we bought is not a “game” in the old fashioned way.
We bought a “license”, which permits us to use the client and services, the assets, in the very specific way they intended the “experience” to be.
Which is way more limited than when we used to buy Diablo2 in term of possibility and legal freedom. But that’s way things are in 2023, and when we bought, we agreed, and this is why I have very hard time reading posts that throw away the fact they knew what they bought.

I knew we would get an always online game, D3 came out 11 years ago and was the same. All that said, D4 would play a lot smoother and cleaner if it was a game with a single player only mode, even more so if it was an offline game.

But they are never doing that so there is no point in asking for it, the online model is about selling microtransactions.

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microtransaction are quite limited right now in D4.
It’s more I think that by having so much online side of things, you limit as much as possible cheating (which is the privilege of solo game), but also and that’s the most important right know : reverse engineering. It makes virtually impossible to reverse engineer a game when all you have is a bunch of asset that get’s organized on screen by an already way obfuscated and messy “client”.
Alongside with the fact it is easier to make the “game” and mechanics evolve.

Oh and to get telemetry and datas from user, of course.

I really think microtransaction in D4 case is the least argument to the online mode. So much more interesting things they win from it being online :wink:

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So much wrong,.

So very much wrong.

Your authority is based on what now?

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i like people that dont read a text “NEEDS INTERNET CONNECTION” before buying the game :DDDDD

Please tell me anything that the client does that is not :

  • updating game state according to what server tells it is
  • sending inputs to server

I’m more than impatient to read :slight_smile:

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I’ve read that. I’ve got that. Couldn’t play either.

Think they implied a working connection (its all in the small print on page 7,994 of EULA)

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Got that 2… sorry
So no violation on my side.

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While I can see your point, i can also see both points, I think it be beneficial for Diablo 4 to have an offline mode, where you can play your character offline, and before everyone gets their panties in a twist over how that wouldn’t work, or something, its been done already with diablo 2 resurrected on the switch, the game is online, but the switch can be played with your online character, while offline, and cross save, so you can play your character on the switch, offline, then once the switch is connected back to the internet, you can go play that same character on the ps4/ps5 or the PC. Now the fact remains that with the rise of portable gaming computers like the steam deck, Lenovo legion, or Asus rog ally, MSI Claw, Onexplayer and many others, giving this same setup with diablo 4 would be quite beneficial to the players, and would show that blizzard actually gives a shit about their customers, something that they havent really done since before the activision merger/buyout.

Sorry, why can’t it be offline again? The rest were and they’re older!

Not sure what your point is tbh.

Whooos a good boy? You are, you are! pat pat pat

Sorry. I got no flames for you. I think it was well said.