Yes, in a lobby there can only be one. The ‘one’ is pre-determined Before the game starts and that person gets perfect cards.
It is either you or it isn’t.
Every game I play the lobby is on Tier 3 or 4 and then there is one player who is already tier 6 with at least 2 golden minions. That player is so far ahead that it is impossible to catch them.
I played a game recently where in 6 turns I played number 1 four times and got killed against his golden tier 6 army when the rest of the lobby Wasn’t even tier 5.
It’s a miracle I survived so long.
It’s not about who gets the minions it’s about how well you can use the minions you get to your advantage,
I just played with Naga and got to Tier 6 before everyone else.
I finished 4th place because I couldn’t juggle so many cards at once.
I had everything going for me, but not enough time to extract full value from everything I’ve gotten.
There will always be someone faster than you.
Why complain about not getting 1st place?
A competitive game where you always arrive first to the finish line is probably not worth playing.
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it is not complaining about getting first.
you get lucky or you do not, simple.
and with naga, with the right naga, getting tier 6 is easy
I disagree.
It’s about knowing how to extract value from what you get. Which is the essence of Hearthstone across all modes.
Which is why many players are at 6k+ myself included, while only less than 1% of the player base is at 11k.
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nonsense, of course you have to be able to see things, but that doesn’t change the fact that it is a game of luck. example, quest, 2 people get the same quest, one has to buy 20 minions, the other 10. The person who has to buy 20 for his quest is really unlucky.
Another example, I get a quest where I have to buy 6 minions, mech or dragon. For 7 rounds I don’t get a single mech or dragon. in other words, are you going to say that it is not a game of luck? It is completely independent of whether you know what to do with what you get. Great, then you have a big board of all the minions you got, then someone cheerfully comes along and completely wipes away your board because he happened to get that one combination. No matter how you look at it, you are either unlucky or lucky.
You go for the quests that you’re able to complete at a reasonable time frame. If I don’t see mechs or pirates in my tavern offer then I won’t choose the quest that asks me to play them.
Of course, luck plays a role. It’s a card game, after all. But without luck there can’t be variance.
How do you propose that Battlegrounds will play out so that luck will be minimized, while variance will still be maintained?
You are talking about something strictly subjective. You feel that when you win, it’s because you’re lucky and when you lose it’s because you’re lucky. But that’s not true.
There’s always skill in the equation. Knowing what to pick, knowing when to pick, knowing when to upgrade. That’s skill.
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Sorry, you are wrong and obviously in the minority about your beliefs.
BG is luck based, everyone except a handful of players know that.
There is a Streamer who hit 18k and the first words out of his mouth were ‘how lucky can I get?’
He is the guy who gets 4 Tier 6 golden minions on turn 3. And at least he admits it.
That streamer is practicing humility. He is a cut above the average.
Maybe by the same token, the greatest Chess players are also extremely lucky that their opponents are much worse than them.
They’re not, though. They’re just statistically better than the average player.
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dude, what are you talking about?
I win and lose, very interesting. I play for amusement for when i have free time. Some days I am luckier than others.
In addition, you completely miss my point, 2 players with the same quest, only 1 player has to play 25 minions, the other has to play 3 battlecry, how nasty can it be. These are examples that are out of balance.
By the way, it’s nonsense what you say about I don’t see a mech so I won’t take the quest. What nonsense, there are 3 mechs there, so you take the quest. You have to have four, so within a reasonable time frame, but you get number four in round 12. You cannot see that coming in advance, that is bad luck and should not be possible in my opinion. Certainly not in the aforementioned problem, where someone has Charla after playing 3 minions and someone with the same quest needs 25.
The the point about skills.
Of course there are sometimes combinations, sometimes you sell all your minions and suddenly you have a board with undead instead of murlocs and you win. Sometimes you lvl to 5 in round 9 and sometimes you better skip that moment els you get kickt in da face.
No matter how much skill you have, if you don’t get something that upgrade your board, you lose.
Reaching top 4 is considered a win and it’s pretty easy to do.
Even if you’re not getting the required minion type for your quest, you’re still playing something, doing something to upgrade your board.
You’re not just mindlessly refreshing the tavern in the early game in search of that elusive fourth mech.
That’s just a waste of gold.
Spells give you extra flexibility finding the minions you need.Patient Scout does that too.
There is more than one way to tip the odds in your favor.
I don’t deny the presence of luck in Hearthstone, I just don’t think it makes or breaks a game.
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In the game, luck certainly plays a role. You might insist now that endlessly refreshing your tavern isn’t necessary, but you’re taking the given point too literally. (We’ve all secretly done it at some point.) Anyway, regardless of the quest you have, let’s stick to the example I gave earlier: a quest can lead to too big a difference in the game, where someone gains or is denied too great an advantage. I consider the difference between playing 3 Battlecry cards or playing 25 minions for the same reward as disproportionate, creating an imbalance. Then winning has nothing to do with skills but simply luck in getting that one quest where you gain too much of an advantage.
You are correct. Luck plays way too big a role.
I played a game recently where the lobby was Tier 3 except for Mr.Luck who already had the best Tier 6 minion. GG. Game over. It was like Turn 6 at most.
I am sure there are countless examples like that.