It may sound like I am crying over here, but I am really curious about something.
I stepped on my pride and played face hunter as I don’t like the concept of going face, but wanted to progress on ladder faster. I went 11-1 until then. I was close to diamond 1 (1 star needed).
If you know deck archetypes you know what counters them and you pray to avoid them. In my case the decks that have taunts or mass clear are my arch nemesis. Until I got to D2 with 3 stars I haven’t encountered a Paladin/Warrior or Aggro Shammy.
All the Mages had their spells on curve, but I manage to bypass them and do the ugly thing and go face. All the Warlocks I played against had their heals and removals, but still managed to bypass them with aimed shots and piercing shots my own 1/1 tokens to melt them down.
After I got to that D2 rank, all went downhill. In 9 matches I went 1-8. Not only my opponents top decking, in 2 consecutive games, Battlemasters or Cram session into ignites, but out of a deck with only 6 cards over 4 mana, I managed to draw them in the first 5 rounds and my “face strategy” went downhill and couldn’t press them early on the game.
This is not the first time it happens that I get to a point in my climb where the game gets me on 1-9/10/11 streaks. People may say that I was lucky in the 11-1 run and encountered bad players/unlucky players, but I want to remind you that they drew on curve and on situation, they played their cards the right way and didn’t rush into things. It just happened that I didn’t draw at all
The only real way to prove it to yourself is to get a tracker like hsreplay and see for yourself objectively.
I personally don’t experience the losing streaks when I’m in try hard mode but I’m also at a lower mmr than I should be and take a break/stop playing if I lose a few in a row, so mitigate the chances.
I have the HS Replay and watched games after they ended, the ones that really frustrated me. The only thing is, when watching the replays, I would get more frustrated seeing game after game them drawing the exact card they needed. I gave up climbing on this meta where 80% of the games are Quest Shaman/Quest Warlock/Quest Mage.
Well you need to look at how many great draws did they still have left? How likely was it that they’d been unlucky to not have those cards until that point? How often should they draw the “exact” card (there’s usually multiple “exact” cards)? When you look at all the factors over any real period of time, it proves it’s not rigged i.e. people have tracked billions of games and it shows the draw isn’t rigged.
I wish the RNG was coupled with the money spent in this game. Unfortunately, the RNG ist only rigged in order to keep all players around 50% winrate. That’s also the reason why Bad players tend to get better luck in average.
After memeing about i.e. mostly losing but with style, for most of the month, I finally played a serious deck in wild. I got the 12 wins in a row achievement and them went 50/50 for about 10 games.
So no losing streak (well I did lose 2 in a row at some points ), to dispute the OP. As for game forces 50/50, you can either read that as it’s rigged or you reach an mmr where you’re as strong as your opponents. The choice on what to believe is yours but I did still end the month 17-5, which isn’t really a 50% wr.
Happened to me a few days after posting this thread. Had a 15-2 run (with some luck, I have to say) and managed to climb. Looking at replays helped. Seeing from the “point of view” of my opponent made me think more about potential moves. Of course there is the usual stealer of souls with insane draw, that you cannot counter, but having an ample view on potential moves my opponent can perform, after watching replays, helped me focus more on tempo and strategy.
Yeah you’re always gona get those games either way where either there’s nothing you can do or “the right play” actually makes you lose. But in general the amount of games you can win if you cut out little mistakes you didn’t even realise you were making (usually it’s a case of “right play in general for your deck but wrong play in that match-up”) is surprisingly high, especially at low mmr. That’s why my wr isn’t abysmal with terrible decks and then once I change to something “real” I can nearly always go on a reasonably big winning streak.
In my opinion game is a “scam” in many ways, “lets you win” ( I even suspect sometimes you have player name but its a bot ) a few in row by “scamy” matchmaking, when you grow up in rank makes another scam matchmaking to make you lose and therefore make you want to “pay” to get better decks.
Matchmaking or the randomness of the order in which cards get in your deck, all made to make you win when you start game, to make you feel like its a cool game, then, as you progress, game “points” you to a “spend money here” process.
They are not lucky with me as I will not spend a cent here… and don’t give a frak about ranks, decks or whatever, I just play for fun and basically same modes, as all other not so fun.
Its better - and more honest - to make a paid game and then let players enjoy it… instead of making a free game that only wants money and has a “scamy” matchmaking or whatever to make you want better paid items.
The sad story of most games right now, free but limited and “scammy”.
I don’t understand your reasoning here: you want to tell me that the only players who win consistently are those who spent money on packs? How does that make sense? We’re all subject to the same matchmaking.
All card games are influenced by what you draw. It’s not Chess.
Makes all sense !!! All the game “mechanics” is intended to make money so makes all sense that they “push” people to spend money. Unless you live in wonderland and think games don’t want to make money and are fair and balanced lol
Only balanced and fair mode is Battlegrounds, where the choices you make make you win or lose, all rest is “scamy”.
Sure you can be good without spending money but you will never pass a certain level, players that are not so good but with better paid decks will win… I can be a good driver and have a normal car, you are a terrible driver with a sport car, we make a drag race and you win, simple, as game logic itself. F2P but P2W… all about making money and giving advantages to those who spend money in a game, simple and easy to understand, otherwise why spend money or even make a game that gives no advantage to players that spend money in it ?? LOL
Totally wrong about matchmaking, not same to all, its another “scamy” part of game that doesn’t work as it should, and that is in 90% of games out there, mm still a “big bug” in most games, that’s why you read so many complaints regarding it LOL.
You must live in wonderland, believing games are fair, balanced and don’t push you to spend money or don’t give advantages to players that do spend it.
Everyday more, gaming is all about profit - as all the rest of the companies out there - all rest is irrelevant.
They still have “Battlegrounds” as only fair mode… matter of time until they ruin it too to monetize it.
That analogy only makes sense if each player only had 1 card to play… Drag racing consists of driving in a straight line, whereas Hearthstone has tons of decisions made during a game by both players so the comparison isn’t fairly made. And even if we instead shifted from drag racing to rallying the better driver would realistically be the winner.
Fashionstone. Cosmetics in f2p games are a thing that are incredibly popular, with good reason. Thus it makes sense to have them in Hearthstone from a marketing perspective, especially given the card game emulation that the game does. Golden cards are like the rare foil cards from games like the Pokemon TCG in that regard.
Some games are indeed predatory. But there are also some that are actually like you described. Sure, sometimes their balance might not be something that is exactly finetuned to perfection but most of the time they try. Older games also often have a nice side-effect where they don’t have microtransactions and the like put in. I suggest something like GOG to find some older games you might enjoy.
That analogy makes all sense, but I guess you didn’t get it at all… and by your comment you don’t understand much about cars at all either.
Cosmetics may be popular but its insane and STUPID the price they have in most games and the price ppl pay for having something doesn’t give you ANY advantage, thats what wrong with gaming these days; TOO MANY SKINS AND TOO LITTLE SKILLS LOL
All free games are “scams and predatory”, made to grab your money, wake up.
Looks like I’m talking to a 11 years old kid… and even bother to answer back. LOL
You kids live in wonderland and rather be fooled over and over then admitting you were fooled.
I definitely think matchmaking is rigged which is why I don’t play much Hearthstone anymore.
It’s not a game of skill if the system chooses which deck I will be matched against.
Hearthstones ranked system is completely pointless. There are leagues which are completely irrelevant as players are matched according to their MMR. And then there is a system behind the scenes which attempts to keep everyone’s deck at a 50% Win rate. Why?
Why can’t players be matched with a player in the division they are in, so what if I go on massive winning streak, eventually all the top players will be in the same league anyway but at least I will know that sheer randomness is in play and not an algorithm designed to keep me from winning by matching me against tougher match ups.
I would also like to know how the game decides the card order. This would help alleviate a lot of doubt into wether or not the community is being scammed. I think in online poker, each card is assigned a number and the a random number generator determines the order. Does Hearthstone have something like this? If yes, why aren’t Blizzard transparent about it?
There’s no algorithm. Furthermore, if there were, there wouldn’t be anything exciting in learning it, as everything would have been known and calculated in advance.
I manage to reach Legend every month. And I have done so in both Wild and Standard.
It’s just a test of perseverance and playing better than your opponents.
I lose a fair amount of games, and I win other matches.
The important thing is not to get your losses get you down.
Usually, what happens is that someone goes on a massive losing streak, feels bad about it, then broadcasts his frustration on the forums and asks for nerfs.
Elaborate then, please. Why am I wrong when I say your analogy makes no sense?
No, I don’t. My knowledge of them is barely even considered rudimentary by most standards.
But even I know when someone talks like they’ve been taking one too many hits off the exhaust pipe while their bong is missing.
I agree. They are too expensive in my opinion as well.
Age is irrelevant in this discussion. Please don’t talk like it has any import in this situation.
Don’t waste your and my time kid, not worth talking to someone who can’t understand things at first and then you have to talk in kids language or make drawings to make them understand what you said. Go to school, keep studying and don’t waste time in conversations you don’t understand or have little knowledge.
As for me I’m done here… its like talking to a wall.
bladz, here me out this game is a hella rigged. the more you spend the more you win, and not coz you have more cards in your collection. lettuce be real tea for a second blizz will look at player stats and rig the game so that you spend more money.
You’re the one who started it. Clearly you’re the one who has the time on their hands to waste since you keep replying to me.
Also you never addressed my argument, please do so. I wanna hear what makes your analogy correct. Or are you just sidelining me because you can’t answer?
To be fair, you said you wouldn’t be back. Yet here you are. I don’t hold much hope for you actually stopping.
), to dispute the OP. As for game forces 50/50, you can either read that as it’s rigged or you reach an mmr where you’re as strong as your opponents. The choice on what to believe is yours but I did still end the month 17-5, which isn’t really a 50% wr.