I have 25 cards in my deck and when a warrior uses his minion with 2 times shuffle in your deck. I draw from this 25 cards in 3 games vs warrior 3 times 2 bombs.
You random algorithm is a joke. Do you know how high the chances are??? below 5 % if you do your statistics work. You are a joke Blizzard
The probability is 0.00236%. That is a little more than getting 2 golden legendaries out of 8 packs. It’s unlikely for sure, but when you’re saying
you’re saying that a random-number-generator that allows fringe events to happen, isn’t generating random numbers.
Do you know what a random-number-generator that doesn’t allow all possible numbers to potentially be rolled, is called? Rigged.
How do you know?!
You don’t know what deck he was playing (maybe he was espionage rogue), you don’t know about the state of the warrior. You know mostly nothing, yet you tell him that he was already loosing and thus deny his right to any complaint for that.
There’s this girl I know, she’s always visibly tired and sick of everything but when one complains she denies him that, something in the neighborhood of “I twisted my ankle and it really hurts” “OHH! Will you stop complaining? Other people have no legs”
your right i dont , thats why i said probally but i think there where a little more bombs in his deck at those matches, because facing warrior 3x and every match the exact same thing happened seems a little odd… i think its more a biased view from him.
Awww, I was disappointed when I opened this post to find that it wasn’t a joke about bomb warriors, but just another whiney post. Damn you and your misleading headings
I had a game yesterday where I had I’d say around 12-15 bombs in my deck and didn’t draw a single one. I probably had more tbh cause the opponent had less than 5 cards left and in my deck I had 23.
Similar thing happened to me in the early days of the meta playing AS bomb warrior. I shuffled somewhere between 10-12 bombs into the deck of my priest opponent, by the time he killed me I had got him down to 3hp…not a single bomb had been drawn and he had 15 cards left in his deck…rng sucks sometimes
Opponent beasthunter played a nice list and was able to pull me down to 1 health!! And he was at 16. He had no cards in hand or board and then he drew 3 bombs in a row…
I assume Blizzard made it that way to enable an aggro version of bomb warrior and to weaken certain counters. You are absolutely right - I’ve been playing a lot recently because I really like the new expansion, made the same observation and started counting: Out of a little more than 1000 bombs, more than half were drawn right on the next turn, and the chance to draw both when the warrior shuffles in two bombs seems to be around 25%. One time a warrior managed to shuffle 6 bombs in one turn into my deck, and I drew 4 of them on the next turn and died.
That suggests that bombs are not randomly drawn like most (all?) other cards, instead they use an extra roll with a ~ 50% chance for each bomb every turn.
One one hand, that makes it easier to use healing because you don’t have to hold back Ziliax or Walking Fountains or whatever you use for more than 2-3 turns until you can use them.
On the other hand, there’s no point in adding Archivist Elysiana to your deck just to get rid of bombs - when the game has progressed enough to play her you’ve most likely drawn all of them already.
If that assumption is correct, drawing 2 bombs 3 times in a row right after the warrior shuffled them into your deck is about 1 in 64 or a little less than 2% - still bad luck, but plausible.
Actually, I’ve made 2 mistakes here. Thanks, Nostalgmus, for quoting this, otherwise I never would have caught it.
My first mistake was assuming that OP had 3 bombs in his remaining 25 cards. He actually didn’t say how many bombs were among those 25 cards. He did indicate that his opponent had an augmented elekk in play, meaning he could have only 2 bombs, or more than 3.
My second mistake was assuming he drew the bombs within 3 turns after shuffling them in. He didn’t say when he drew the cards. Could be 10 turns later.
Conclusion: if he had only 2 bombs it would decrease the probability massively (for the first 3 turns after shuffling). If he had more than 3, it would increase it.
The more significant factor would be the timeline. If he meant sometime during the game, it would mean almost nothing. If he meant immediately after shuffling, it would mean a great deal.
Drawing 2 bombs out of 2 immediately after shuffling in 3 consecutive games would have a much lower probability than the one that I calculated. It wouldn’t prove anything though because the probability wouldn’t be 0 and thus it can happen.
The thing is though that in reality there is a difference between being random and looking random. Those 2 don’t always coincide.
To be fair, OP’s statement is a bit misleading as he says he has 25 cards in his deck WHEN warrior shuffles 2 bombs in. is that before or after the bombs are shuffled? If it’s before, to have 25 cards left in your deck before the shuffle you can only be on turn 2 (going into turn 3) because, even if you go first so there are maximum amount of cards left in your deck and warrior has the coin, you’ve drawn 3 at the start of the game, 1 on your first turn and one on your second leaving 25 in the deck…this can’t be the case as a warrior wouldn’t be able to get an elekk on the board AND shuffle bombs in on turn 2 even if he has the coin.
This leads me to think that it must be 25 in deck AFTER the shuffle because the warrior would have had to play an elekk first, which is minimum turn 3 (turn 2 with coin) and then shuffle the bombs next turn which can only be turn 3 at the earliest, or turn 4 with no coin. If the warrior had shuffled 2 bombs in on turn 3 meaning he had to have the coin, and as such OP must have gone first, he would have had 26 cards in his deck, not 25, because of the 3 he’d drawn at the start and the 3 he’d drawn up to turn 3 would leave 24 in his deck, plus the 2 shuffled in…makes 26. This deduction points to that it must have been turn 4 when the bombs were shuffled in. If OP had gone first and warrior had the coin, the most bombs that could be shuffled into the deck by turn 4 is 4 and that would have to be turn 2+coin -elekk, turn 3 clockwork gnome, turn 4 another CG or wrenchcalibur……but that would still put too many bombs into the deck to make 25 left in deck on turn 4.
So evidence suggest only 2 bombs can have been shuffled into the deck by turn 4 to leave 25 in the deck before any bomb draws…….that or OP his completely mislead us
I never really doubted that the had 25 cards left including the bombs because of this:
But then again, in this cryptic post, anything could mean anything
Also I realized that I made a third mistake, by not thinking about what 25 cards left means in terms of time. Most likely this happened in the very first turns, as you pointed out, so I agree that he probably didn’t have 6 bombs in his deck
It’s not guaranteed though as he could have started with 35 cards in a Malchezaar deck.
However, I think the more crucial detail is when he drew the bombs. and that’s something we don’t know. and if OP hasn’t checked in again after 3 days, I doubt he will.
So I’m gonna conclude this for myself by keeping to the details that OP did say:
Events with a probability of <5% can happen without the randomness generator being rigged. if they couldn’t, it would mean that anything with a probability >=95% (the respective complementary event) would be guaranteed to happen. This would truly not be random.