Building a deck

General Discussion
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Hello dear Hearthstone players and Hearhpwn community!

Long post ahead sorry :slight_smile:

Let me start off by saying i am kind of a returning player ( played a little bit at launch and a little bit at Rastakhan’s rumble), i mostly play the game F2P with the exception of the current deal on Hollow’s end and the starter pack.

I am here today to ask your help, see i have an issue i cannot synergize cards and build a deck even if my life depended on it. When given an already made deck i always can see the logic of it on my own and how it is ment to be played however when it comes to actually making the thing on my own… words have not been made to discribe how bad i am at, to the point where actually i gave up. Today i ask the annoying task to any gentle soul who would be up for it to take a look at my collection and go crazy, tell me what i can build with the cards i have go ham with all classes let me see what u can come up with ( i also have 1k dust ).

My collection:

hearthpwn .com/members/michel94/collection

Neutral list ( i have the 5 pages bug):

  • Wisp x1
  • Abusive sergeant x2
  • Argent squire x2
  • Beaming Sidekick x1
  • Elven Archer x2
  • Goblin bomb x2
  • Goldshire Footman x2
  • Grimscale Oracle x2
  • Gurubashi Chicken x2
  • Gurubashi Offering x1
  • Helpless Hatchling x2
  • Jar Dealer x2
  • Leper Gnome x1
  • Mecharoo x1
  • Murloc Raider x2
  • Murmy x2
  • Potion Vendor x1
  • Saronite Taskmaster x2
  • Secretkeeper x2
  • Shieldbearer x2
  • Skaterbot x1
  • Southsea Deckhand x2
  • Stonetusk Boar x2
  • Voodoo Doctor x2
  • Worgen Infiltrator x1
  • Young Dragonhawk x1
  • Acidic Swamp Ooze x2
  • Amani Berserker x2
  • Arcane Servant x2
  • Belligerent Gnome x2
  • Bloodfen Raptor x2
  • Bloodsail Raider x1
  • Bluegill Warrior x2
  • Booty Bay Bookie x1
  • Bug Collector x1
  • Cheaty Anklebiter x2
  • Cloakscale Chemist x1
  • Dire Wolf Alpha x2
  • Dozing Marksman x1
  • Evil Cable Rat x1
  • Firetree Witchdoctor x1
  • Fishflinger x2
  • Frostwolf Grunt x2
  • Galvanizer x1
  • Hench-Clan Hogsteed x2
  • Injured Tol’vir x2
  • Knife Juggler x2
  • Kobold Geomancer x2
  • Kobold Sandtrooper x2
  • Loot Hoarder x1
  • Lorewalker Cho x1
  • Mana Addict x1
  • Mana Wraith x1
  • Master Swordsmith x1
  • Murloc TideHunter x2
  • Neferset Ritualist x2
  • Novice Engineer x2
  • Pint-Sized Summoner x1
  • Questing Explorer x2
  • Quicksand Elemental x1
  • River Crocolisk x2
  • Scarab Egg x1
  • Serpemt Egg x2
  • Sharkfin Fan x2
  • Shieldbreaker x1
  • Soup Vendor x1
  • Spellzerker x2
  • spitting Camel x1
  • Sunfury Protector x2
  • Temple Berserker x2
  • Upgradeable Framebot x1
  • Vilefiend x2
  • Waterboy x1
  • Wild Pyromancer x1
  • Youthful Brewmaster x2
  • Banana Buffon x2
  • Blood Knight x2
  • Bronze Gatekeeper x1
  • Candletaker x2
  • Dalaran Mage x2
  • Desert Hare x2
  • Earthen Ring Farseer x1
  • Electrowright x2
  • Emperor Cobra x1
  • Flesheating Ghoul x1
  • Golden Scarab x2
  • Harvest Golem x1
  • Infested Goblin x1
  • Ironbeak Owl x1
  • Ironforge Rifleman x2
  • Ironfury Grizzly x2
  • Jungle Panther x1
  • Kaboom Bot x2
  • Magma Rager x2
  • Microtech Controller x1
  • Murloc Warleader x1
  • Ornery Tortoise x1
  • Pumpkin Peasant x1
  • Questing Adventurer x1
  • Raid Leader x2
  • Razorfen Hunter x2
  • Scarlet Crusader x2
  • Shatterred Sun Cleric x2
  • Silverback Patriarch x2
  • Spring Rocket x2
  • Thrallmar Farseer x2
  • Vulpera Scoundrel x1
  • Wolfrider x2
  • Ancient Mage x2
  • Arena Fanatic x1
  • Arena Treasure Chest x2
  • Body Wrapper x1
  • Bone Wraith x2
  • Chillwind Yeti x2
  • Conjured Mirage x2
  • Cult Master x2
  • Dark Iron Dwarf x1
  • Dragonling Mechanic x2
  • Dread Corsair x2
  • Explodinator x1
  • Gnomish Inventor x2
  • Mogu’shan Warden x2
  • Murloc Tastyfin x1
  • Oasis Snapjaw x2
  • Ogre Magi x2
  • Piloted Reaper x1
  • Regeneratin’ Thug x2
  • Rumbletusk Shaker x2
  • Sen’jin Shieldmaster x2
  • Silvermoon Guardian x1
  • Steel Rager x2
  • Stormwind Knight x2
  • Ticket Scalper x2
  • Violet Spellword x1
  • Abomination x1
  • Arena Patron x1
  • Azerite Elemental x1
  • Booty Bay Bodyguard x2
  • Dalaran Crusader x1
  • Darkscale Healer x2
  • Deagonmaw Scorcher x2
  • Faceless Lurker x2
  • Fen Creeper x2
  • Former Champ x2
  • Frostwolf Warlord x2
  • Gurubashi Berserker x2
  • Mosh’Ogg Announcer x1
  • Nightblade x2
  • Sightless Ranger x2
  • Silver Hand Knight x2
  • Stormpike Commando x2
  • Stranglethorn Tiger x2
  • Wasteland Assasin x2
  • Archmage x2
  • Boulderfist Ogre x2
  • Damaged Stegotron x1
  • Eccemtric Scribe x2
  • Frost Elemental x1
  • Gadgetzan Auctioneer x1
  • Lord Of The Arena x2
  • Mechanical Whelp x1
  • Priestess Of Elune x2
  • Reckless Rocketeer x2
  • Windfury Harpy x1
  • Amani War Bear x2
  • Core Hound x2
  • Giggling Inventor x1
  • Rabble Bouncer x1
  • Ravenlord Assasin x2
  • Stormwind Champion x2
  • War Golem x2
  • Wasteland Scorpid x2
  • Jepetto Joybuzz x1
  • Mosh’Ogg Enforcer x2
  • Octosar x1
  • Pit Crocolisk x2
  • Ragnaros The Firelord x1
  • Anubisath Warbringer x1
  • Bull Dozer x1
  • Deathwing x1
  • Living Monument x1

update : twisting neather and eaglehorn added.

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I won’t have time until the weekend to have a real look, but at a glace, some sort of highlander hunter should be solid, as you have enough cards to form an ok base (especially with added cards).

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take your time my friend whenever u can take a look please do :slight_smile: thank you in advance

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Highlander Hunter? Ok, but he’ll need to get Dinotamer Brann, maybe Zephrys too.

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i have dinotamer brann but sadly not the perfect card genie :frowning:

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here’s a very general and simplified blueprint of how to build a deck:

1. come up with a win condition. a win condition are those cards that will most likely get you the win. that’s your primary game plan.

in highlander hunter, those are the expensive cards like Siamat, Zul’Jin or Dinotamer Brann. When playing, you look for favorable (and early) situations in which you can play them and you go from there.

so when you try to build your own deck, think about what you want to build / which cards you’d like to use and then think about how they can win a game. those are your win condition cards, the core of your deck.

2. the rest of your deck are called tech cards. those help you get to your win condition. the most common categories of tech cards are:

  • card draw (for example acolyte of pain, arcane intellect, coldlight oracle).
    card draw helps you get to your win condition by getting more cards from your deck into your hand, so you go through your deck faster
  • removal.
    there are two types:
    . AOE (area of effect): example being flamestrike or blizzard. those are spells that don’t target specific minions, but all minions that stand in the targeted area (most often your opponent’s side of the board). this is very effective against a full board of low- to mid-health minions.
    . point removal (there’s probably a different term for this as well): example being shadow word: death or naturalize. this targets a specific minion and kills it. this is good against high-health minions.
    the function of removal is to help you survive. you can’t win the game when you’re dead, so surviving is pretty important. by removing your opponent’s threats, you not only survive more easily, but have an easier time developing your own board (which simply means putting stuff on your side of the board).
  • there are other, more specific kinds of tech cards, like cards that interfere with your opponents hand (example: dirty rat) or your opponent’s deck (skulking geist) or your opponent’s actions (secrets, like counterspell) and there are other types as well.

in highlander hunter your tech cards are for example
. point removal (deadly shot, kill command),
. interfering with your opponent’s actions (secrets),
. card producing cards (shimmerfly),
. card draw (sand binder, masked contender (he doesn’t draw, but cast, which is arguably better), subject 9),
. zephrys (he is a category by himself because he is so good and versatile).
. there’s other stuff, but I just wanted to give you a quick overview about the subject

that’s it in a nutshell. in reality it’s much more complex, but the concepts are rather simple. it comes down to practice and meta knowledge. you need to know what the meta looks like in order to select the right tech cards. this is sometimes specific to your particular area of the meta. if you meet a lot of decks with lots of small minions, you might need more AOE than someone at a different rank who mostly meets decks with few, big minions. oftentimes it is not that necessary to adapt if your deck is good, but this is sometimes a good way of increasing your winrate by a small margin.

again, this comes with experience. don’t stress yourself out over it. just build whatever looks fun and good, then try it out and if it doesn’t work, try to think about why it doesn’t work. then try to tweak this weakness spot and see if the replacement works better.

if you don’t know what to do you can always post here in the forum and the wizards will help you. just don’t try to rely too much on them. hearing the optimal solution and understanding why it works is much easier than coming up with a mediocre solution that kinda somehow works sometimes. but it is this struggle of finding a solution yourself that’s gonna teach you how to build decks in the end.

but asking is still important because it helps you stay on the right track.

find the right mix :wink:

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thank you for your input Khisana, i am always trying to learn how to create a deck and will take your advise the heart who knows maybe it will get me on my way to actually build a deck because trust me you think you have seen a bad deck builder… then u see me… In all cases your input was valuable and i thank you for it. As always feel free to take a look at my collection and take a crack at it. have a nice weekend!

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Good job I actually skimmed through the cards and saw they had Brann, hence the suggestion :grimacing:

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A lot of people are saying Singleton Hunter, but if you have a nice amount of the classic Warlock cards, play Dinomancer Warlock, it’s got a simple combo that is great fun to use.

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i am up for building a deck for all classes. what do u suggest i can do with my collection of lock cards? i got a few legendaries and epics on this class.
Update: Ixnay did u get a change to take a deeper look?

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Druid: Some type of token deck. It’ll be cheap and of an ok power level. https://hsreplay.net/decks/axWNNT6VEKTmyhd9IBCAm/

Hunter: You can build a budget midrange easily but a highlander version would be more fun. It is typically a very expensive deck, but whilst we have the free cards you can make something reasonable.

### Highlander
# Class: Hunter
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Raven
#
# 1x (1) Abusive Sergeant
# 1x (1) Argent Squire
# 1x (1) Secretkeeper
# 1x (2) Acidic Swamp Ooze
# 1x (2) Amani Berserker
# 1x (2) Dire Wolf Alpha
# 1x (2) Explosive Trap
# 1x (2) Freezing Trap
# 1x (2) Knife Juggler
# 1x (2) Pressure Plate
# 1x (2) Scarab Egg
# 1x (2) Serpent Egg
# 1x (2) Snipe
# 1x (3) Animal Companion
# 1x (3) Eaglehorn Bow
# 1x (3) Hunter's Pack
# 1x (3) Kill Command
# 1x (4) Bone Wraith
# 1x (4) Dark Iron Dwarf
# 1x (4) Houndmaster
# 1x (4) Hyena Alpha
# 1x (5) Baited Arrow
# 1x (5) Tundra Rhino
# 1x (6) Khartut Defender
# 1x (6) Savannah Highmane
# 1x (6) Sylvanas Windrunner
# 1x (8) Ragnaros the Firelord
# 1x (9) Call of the Wild
# 1x (9) Nozdormu
# 1x (10) N'Zoth, the Corruptor
# 
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# 
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone

Replace Nozdormu with Brann. There’s 1 rare card to craft Khartut Defender, but it’s just a solid card to have and will stop you dying when you plan N’Zoth.

Warlock: Zoo as always is the budget answer

### Zoo
# Class: Warlock
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Raven
#
# 2x (1) Abusive Sergeant
# 2x (1) Flame Imp
# 2x (1) Grim Rally
# 2x (1) Sinister Deal
# 2x (1) Soulfire
# 2x (1) Voidwalker
# 2x (2) Dire Wolf Alpha
# 2x (2) EVIL Cable Rat
# 2x (2) EVIL Genius
# 2x (2) Knife Juggler
# 2x (2) Scarab Egg
# 2x (2) Serpent Egg
# 2x (3) EVIL Recruiter
# 2x (3) Imp Gang Boss
# 1x (9) Nozdormu
# 1x (10) Deathwing
# 
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# 
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone

Nozdormu is your diseased Vulture, Dwing is Tekahn. You would really like Sea Giants in this, but I kept the list to cards you have plus commons.

Paladin: Who am I?

https://hsreplay.net/decks/WIahWF7CbHVdX9qndTREMf/

Change Leeroy for Rag.

Shaman: Murlocs

https://hsreplay.net/decks/IWVgKIK1aNKnwj00T4Az1c/

This would be pretty much all you budget though and there’s no real substitutes for the warleaders.

I think the other classes are a little out of you budget for now. Combo Priest for example is cheap but I wouldn’t bother without the 1 legendary + 2 epics the deck needs.

Good luck :slight_smile:

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thank you so much. your answer exceeded my expectations. i Ow you a great dead. One last thing i was wondering what is the legendary and two epics the deck needs ( priest). As for the warleaders i only have one copy but i guess i could maybe craft one. What do u think of evolve shaman? i dont seem far off it

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Amet and Psychopomp. Then you’d still need the rest of the deck (which is cheap tbf)

Well you need all the murlocs as well so there’s several rares as well as the epic.

I can see evolve Shaman being a solid choice but the 2 thunderheads are a necessity so that’s 800 dust which doesn’t leave you much to fill out the deck.

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I got 1 out of two is it that mecessary to have two?

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Well it’s statistics the highest played wr murloc in the game by quite a way (2.4% which doesn’t sound a lot but the next 6 are seperated by 1.8% combined).

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The thunderhead? Its a really solid card

I played murloc quite a bit earlier that year and that card won me a number of games. Especially against zoo and in the mirror.

Im usually a low rank player but i climbed 5 ranks with it :slight_smile:

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i was able to craft the hunter and lock decks however for the shaman and paly deck i seem to be over 10 cards short. Are you sure my collection fits those decks?

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Well I literally said the shaman one would cost you everything.

The Paladin one was just an extremely cheap deck that’s doing well, so I didn’t match card for card.