I see everyone complaining about this deck and that deck, yet everyone complaining are only complaining that their op netdeck is not good against that other op netdeck, and that other netdeck people complain is no good against the other netdeck etc etc. It’s not the card designs that are broken, it’s the fact that 99% (i say 99% and not 100% because i believe Im one of the only original players since release that has never even glanced at a netdeck as i can’t understand the fun in playing a deck built by a community played by half the community? to be played everyday with a guidbook and how too play…).
So everyone complaining, if you netdeck, don’t complain, because when they nerf the netdeck you’re complaining about those netdeckers will complain about your netdeck and that will get nerf. Also, netdeckers saying the design team have done an awful job… no the designs are fun but you all insist on playing the most repeitive broken op deck for each class and whine when a netdecker is better than yours, not the devs fault at all.
Also a shout out to any other players who have never ever netdecked, the real players, not the npcs lol :).
The thing is the majority of players care about winning. Even if you’re a creative deck builder and slowly optimise your deck, you will end up with a netdeck.
My own person example comes from the one time I made legend. Everyone else was playing the new shininess of Aggri secret Paladin or Dragon Priest. I decided to target them and build dude Paladin (this was before that was ever a thing) and went 15-0 against the secrets and 8-2 against the dragons.
Then 2 days later I saw Strifecro playing “my deck” at top legend ranks. It had become a net deck.
So your options are:
Build and optimise a deck → end up with netdeck
Skip that and just use the netdeck
Play your own deck, have fun, but lose more than you should
As a deck builder myself I’ve never used someone elses list as I don’t find that fun, but I’ve ended up with net-decks where my deck was “too good” and I lose way more than I should
I have no problem with people net decking because I know many players don’t enjoy the deck building process so don’t want to gatekeep them from winning → leaving the game. In the time we live in, it’s a necessary evil.
Oh look one of theese threads again. Homebrewers aren’t better than netdeckers, they certainly aren’t “real players” just for homebrewing. Also, all that Ixnay said.
I also agree with Ixney, you missed the main point of my comment to add nothing to it. I point out how everyone complaining about op netdecks netdecks op netdecks themselves and then complain that Blizzard are bad card designers. How the community want every other netdecked nerfed except their own o their op netdeck is the top tier. Homebrewers are much better because if everyone homebrewed they’re more far more diverse decks, far less broken decks, more fun, less complaiing about broken cards and decks etc. Think about the comment critically before you comment something that misses the point and adds nothing to the actualy point of the comment.
You don’t have to understand it, but you do have to understand that it’s just as valid a method of playing the game like any other. That and I don’t believe you’ve never glanced at a netdeck before, not necessarily with the purpose of playing it, but for ideas of your own decks.
Just because someone netdecks doesn’t make them an “npc”.
Also, just because somebody complains about netdecking when they netdeck themselves doesn’t make their criticism any less relevant if those criticisms are well construed and have solid statistics to prove it. Also also, I find it kinda ironic that you’re complaining about other players complaining about other players.
I can honestly say I’ve never looked up a netdeck for deck ideas, so I’ve no reason to not believe the OP.
Only reason I ever look up netdecks is for the stats, as I find it interesting if the numbers back up my or anyone else’s opinion plus I don’t like chiming in on discussions if I don’t know what I’m talking about.
I honestly have never ever glanced at a netdeck, i didn’t even know about them until after awhile i noticed players playing the same decks. Im an old school gamer and this was my first ever card game, i started playing HS in it’s first week of release. I have nearly 7000 wins with Warrior alone and have reached he higher ranks many times. I have never been to a netdeck site(i assume they exist because i am not living under a rock), i have never looked up for ideas, nor copied any ever, to me it’s the most boring pointless uninteractive way to play a game. Like those gamers who watch full playthroughs of games, look for all the glitches and guides and THEN buys the game to rush through it… why.
It must mean a lot then for to have to believe everyone must have looked at a netdeck… thank you :). If this comes across as big headed and offensive thats on you, but i think netdecking is a brainless no skill npc game… so no, i have never ever looked at or thought about netdecking, i consider it an insult to my skill in building playable decks and just an insult to my brain to have to use someone else’s deck because you’re incapable of building one yourself.
I understand young people may want to netdeck, sure, i understand super casuals might want too, but the hardcore player base netdecks 99% of the time too, and yes it ruined the game for me years ago and IS the biggest problem with HS, it’s like playing against npcs constantly, then they emote the hell out of you…why… i mean they’re using a handicap deck with a “how to guide”, so how do they feel like they actually accomplished anything with a deck that comes with stabilisers.
Not complaining, pointing out how i feel about the game and what i think is ruining the game. more of a rant, with undeniable points. The biggest complaints about this game is the op netdecks… and who are doing all the complaining… netdeckers. I dare YOU and everyone else to build your own decks likes me and that Ixnay person… that’s two of us, liets make it three and then more will follow… you can do it, have faith in your headmeat
Well, you might be glad to know I also make my own decks - have done so for a long time, mostly because I lack tons of the cards for most of the netdecks that are making the rounds.
My biggest favourite right now is what I call High Stakes Casino Mage, with the two Yogg-Sarons alongside basically every kind of random effect spell and minion I could think of. Most of the time my gameplan boils down to casting everything I can while waiting to draw the original Yogg, then putting him down and hoping for the best.
Second one I have is an old one, a Taunt Warrior with the Uldum and Un’Goro quests both in it. I would have also added the Stormwind one if I had it. Each match basically was me whacking with weapons while laying down taunts and gaining armor. Honestly the Uldum one was never really that relevant, though the extra minions were always nice. It didn’t win a lot but hey, occasionally I get Sulfuras and get that lucky roll for lethal.
Third one is not actually something I’ve tried yet, but I hope to be able to one day - Houndmaster Shaw and Hydralodon clearing a massive enemy board. Maybe with Ambassador Faelin added for more Colossal action.
Oh wow! I like to play my sh1tty versions of decks and then complain about people using good and optimized decks when I lose. Here is a medal for your efforts!
It’s called research and players do it in every game that is played competitively. It’s not about the deck, but about the player and his/her plays. If you and I play with the exact same deck, I’m pretty sure I’ll come pout on top 8 out of 10 times.
That must be the biggest lie i have ever seen … even if you dont look at decks online , even if you dont check any streamers ever … After you build a deck and play against other ppl you might see a card your opponent plays and you think hey thats a good idea lets add it…So you will always end up with a variation of a netdeck. If you think you have an archetype that noone else plays or more than 50% of the cards in your deck are different from any variation that there is out there i challenge you to post your list, and i mean a tier 1 or even 2 deck dont give me a meme deck.
I am an old player aswell and i remember a time where meme decks could get you to legend but ppl ignore 2 factors about game
Mmr locks you in decks you play, if you are high legend and trying a meme deck or compelting quest you will lose if you are low mmr, you can play whatever but you dont really win …the more you win the more meta decks you face
Hearthstone is a really old game as a game get older the player base becomes better and better so these times you see less and less missplay and that happens to all the games (wow for example vanilla used to have few ppl raiding properly and now days most can raid well and when vanilla rereleased it wasnt such a pain at all)
Hate to break your fantasy, but i really haven’t ever copied an idea or deck ever, even copying a gimmick deck style is netdecking, something i avoid as i am not an npc. I get that is really hard for you to believe, but the fact i have 100% only build my own decks from scratch and still get above gold in ranks says that you should all be able to do it too. Your logic reasoning doesn’t mean it is fact, for example again, i have been playing since release of the game, and not once has my brain gone “duh… that was a good idea i should copy it because i can’t do things myself”, again, i know you just won’t believe that is possible given i have never played against a random deck(for years every class plays the exact same deck per meta!), but i know how great i must be for so many people to be in abslute denial that i really have not ever played a deck from anyone else ever. I have even put cards back on the map and where i beat hundreds of people and then people start using the same card for the same purpose i used it before, so i then remove that card and deck idea and create another original deck and often that will also get copied or a card that people thought was trash they see how i used it they then put it back in the metas… lying about never copying or netdecking is a very pathetic dumb thing to say if you’re lying, and i am neither of those, i have never copied or netdecked, deal with it, if you can’t you’re just showing even more that i am so SO far superior at this game, that’s all you are admitting by now accepting what i said.
Ability to understand the meta i.e. understand what your opponents are likely to be doing.
So building your own deck means that:
Will be less. You may hate netdecking but it’s blind arrogance to believe that your deck will be card for card better than the deck that has been created by the sheer volume of games.
Will be more to start with. If you build and tweeked a deck up from scratch your ability to play said deck is gonna be higher at least in the short term. Once the netdecker gets the reps in they can catch up if they’re good enough.
Will be higher. You know their deck and what they should do. They’ve not gona know what you are doing. However, if you play like an npc, it doesn’t matter what deck your using, you’re gona lose more than you should.
Not on the list: believing if someone has netdecked.
In the end you’re allowed to believe whatever you want makes you “superior” at the game. I personally don’t believe that because I’m a decent deck builder that it makes me better at the game than all the previous world champions who all netdecked, but if you do, that’s fine, shame you don’t have the prize money to show for it
Lets look at those quotes…you have beaten hundreds of ppl as a far superior players than us at GOLD rank and w8 for it…above…you have made a card that was not meta , a meta card and after that as poeple start net decking your deck you moved to another card that noone plays…we all bow to your superiority our lord
You stay at the gold ranks of the game beating those hundreds of ppl , we peasants will return at our pathetic legend rank and beat thousands of ppl
Please our lord guide our way to the light teach us how to not netdeck or steal anyone ideas forgive our sins…
Anyway joke aside i dont care if you think your decks are not a netdeck … i challenged you to present a list and prove me wrong you didnt and you cant and if you think its amazing to reach gold and above with a deck then lol… i usually get diamond 5 in a day and then push for legend, gold rank is so low, i dont know what are you proud of
Again you make me a fool if you present a class and 30 cards that are so out of the box and also so good proving it with a pick of win rate statistics not your word i will publicly here apologise for making fun of you calling you lord all in good will, i have nothing against you or how you play hearstone enjoy it , but all your decks unless are total crap are netdecks cause in todays hearthstone millions of ppl come together and make archetypes and perfect them, we are a community and thats the fun
You are trying to argue with players that makes no sense , anyway good post great points , i can spot a good players from far and you are my friend but if you read carefully his post he is not a good player, and also lying . There is no way that he ever created an archetype when noone else thought b4 and lets say he once did why would he stop playing his own deck just cause he saw his deck copied, any player that ever created a tier 1 2 or 3 deck and saw ppl copying should feel pride and not being let down and delete his deck
and that Ixnay person… that’s two of us, liets make it three and then more will follow… you can do it, have faith in your headmeat