Never Surrender + Flare

TLDR of what lost me a few games:
If you play Flare when your enemy has a Never Surrender secret up it will get proc’ed, and the rest of secrets he had will be removed.
But when you play Flare on Cat Trick (which is triggered by playing a spell too) - it goes away. Which interaction is correct and pls fix?

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I think this is a bug and they will fix it soon, because it works on both Cat Trick and Counterspell yet it doesnt for Never Surrender.

This is correct interaction

This is correct

What you’ve missed is that Counterspell, Never Surrender, Mana bind, etc have “WHEN enemy casts a spell” and cat trick has “AFTER”

It’s not

Does not work on CS

As it should - explanation above

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Either you a are just spit balling here or just trying to fill out the necessary character requirements for a comment because just yesterday a hunter removed my CS with flare in wild

Nope. It obviously triggers it but it’s the flare that gets countered i.e. it doesn’t draw a card.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcTcJox1baM

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Nah, i just pay attention to things
Ixnay explained what happend

btw, inististing on false statements, just to avoid admiting making them is kind of silly.

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Oh yea, lets go there. “I dont agree with people so the logical course of action is to insult them”

Did the Flare remove your other secrets as well, and draw the Hunter a card?
Or did your Counterspell trigger (causing it to remove itself) because Flare is, after all, a spell?

In the former case, that would be a bug as CS is supposed to counter Flare. In that case please post a bug report at https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/hearthstone/c/bug-report (and do include screenshots or hsreplay.com link if available)

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It’s not a case of agreeing or not agreeing. There are simply two types of secrets: the “when/whenever” type and the “after” type.
In the first case, you get the following sequence:
1: Flare gets played
2: Secret gets triggered
3: If Flare still exists, the effect of Flare happens and destroys all remaining secrets.
In the case of an “after” secret, you get this sequence:
1: Flare gets played
2: The effect of Flare happens and destroys all secrets.

Counterspell and Never Surrender are in group 1, so they trigger before Flares effect. Cat Trick is in the second group, so it gets destroyed by Flare.

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CS was my only active secret at the time

It is the case when someone insults me right after someone else argued to the facts and proved me wrong. In the video everything is pretty clear, i dont need multiple people explain it to me over and over again, maybe i was focused on something else and didnt see CS popping up or the card draw.

My issue is with the previous comment, the arguement was already over but there he shows up and starts throwing insults. He didnt even need to write anything after Ixnay’s reply but no, he has to throw insults, he just cant sleep if he wont.

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Where’s that ignore user button when you need it, huh?

Since when pointing out a false statement is insult? :smiley:
You dislike facts - i’m ok with that
You dislike pointing out when making false one - I’m ok with that
You bend facts to follow your narative - I’m not ok with that and simply shed some light on it.

Actually falsly accusing me, after you came with:

Is kind of insulting and trolly

Time and time people explained you what the interaction is, you ignore it, focus on the people instead and act toxic. But you know - whatever your feelings are about facts, that doesn’t change the facts.

Sorry mate, tried to help you find it way ago, but we couldnt. I do apreciate your frustration, but strongly believe that toxic people can be changed, and ask you to give him a chance, as I’m doing

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Thing to do here is to just ignore it, Dorias. Just pretend there’s a void here.

Edit: actually there really is a void, no need to pretend.

What is the insult here? At that point of the argument i was unaware the fact that it actually did not work and you didnt present any facts towards the subject, you only said it didnt work rather than “how” or “why”

What part of this did you not understand and felt the need to continue the arguement again? Why are you still going at it again as if you are the victim here?

Let me emphasize it again

All clear?

He is literally itching right now, he cant resist. He just has to keep going.

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That’s not true. Or partialy true, as you may have ignored that part of my inital post

Sure, i didnt present any facts, neither did I bolded the wording to make it more clear and understandable. Please, don’t bend my words.

I refuse to take any part of whatever your play and flame baiting is and debunk the whole thing.

Sound like a great advice, not that I’m giving any.
Please calm down and stop escalating this any further.

Damn it Dorias, now look what you did…

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Finally he stops, at some point i thought he was a bot

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I just have to point out, the best parts are where he says stuff like:

Saying he refuses to take part while taking part by responding…

Going on and on and on about it, and telling you to stop escalating it.

Oh the irony. It’s hilarious.

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Agree, the irony is rly strong. Btw, are you rly going to come after every my post and fish for attention, honey boo, seems a bit desperate you know?

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Haha, comedy gold this.

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