Oh yea, I forgot. Roping could just be a disconnect issue.
a report player mechanism maybe.
yes!
The problem EXISTS and implementing an in-game report player mechanism will solve the issue. As for massively abusing the report button - ways of overcoming this can be thought out. It seems to me that youâve never encountered âsuch playersâ if you wrote such a post. So why are you in this thread?)
I constantly see âsuch playersâ and meet them at most of the ranks (much less in legendary) and I can easily tell whether a player has connection issues or is using an autoclick). Sometimes I meet the same bot player few times a day, and when I see his nick - I know whatâs going to happen next. How hard is it to concede to such a player at 3rd star of diamond 1?)
Getting back to abusing: single reports can be not taken into consideration, but if a player gets hundreds of reports from different players - that says it all. Of course additional resources have to be allocated to checking the reports - but this will greatly improve the game experience for majority and decrease frustration.
Or am I wrong?)
i have met alot of these players, and reporting them will absolutely do nothing. Nice strawmanning tho, by claiming i havent and have no reason to be here. Lovely way to just brush away other peoples opinions with no proper arguement
Its not abusing bugs or grieving. However report buttons like these will be just like in League or legends or Dota. People will abuse it because they get salty for losing.
Yes single reports wont cause action. But if you meet alot of salty people like you then reports will pile up on eachother. People will abuse the hell out of it.
Going a bit slow wether its on purpose or not? report.
People lost against you and feel like their time was wasted because they are sore losers? Report.
Using too much emotes wich might annoy someone? Report.
use an emote when making a big play? Report.
And how do you want blizz to check these reports? Do you think they will watch every single replay they somehow saved on their database of all games played just to check if someone was playing slow? How will blizz know people werent busy with irl things or having connection issues?
A report button for people hitting the rope every time is just insane. Just open another window on your computer or do something else while waiting. No need to punish players for you being inpatient.
There is a timelimit built into the game and especially with gold rewards these days being based on time played instead of winning. You assume its because people are trying to make you quit out of annoyance while in reality in most cases its people farming gold because blizz changed the reward system in a bad way
I didnât mean to offend you, sorry! Claiming and asking are different things 
No, people roping on purpose while still playing the game is no problem (with me, at least). I think you got me a little bit wrong.
I described the following situation:
The game starts, you go first.
You look at your opponents hero power and see it blinking with equal intervals, but they canât use their hero power on turn 1 because it costs 2 mana.
Usually such opponents are odd warriors, gaining 4 armor each turn.
You play a card and end a turn.
Your opponent uses a hero power each turn and does nothing else for the whole game, roping each turn.
Sounds familiar? Or not?
no no no. not that)
Do I want Blizz to check each report manually? I donât care, actually.
But automation, neural networks and machine learning might help (e.g. for the whole game your opponent didnât play any cards, roped each turn, used a hero power each turn, tried to press the hero power 15 times each turn⌠should I continue?)
Nothing is impossible, an elegant way can be invented to solve this problem.
I wonât comment the rest of your message, since you got me wrong in the 1st place)
Yeah, an interesting idea that could be developed and implemented) Maybe after the 3rd roping, 2 is too little in this case. imo.
Or. A win doesnât count as a win if a player didnât kill a single minion and/or didnât do any damage. See any drawbacks in this approach?
Iâve also started seeing bots that use hero power and play cards - but never attack
yes seen it plenty of times. But it still does not justify a report button in a game like hearthstone because like i said its very easy to abuse. In fact they are just a free win. But all you need to be is patient.
report options work in games like WoW or LoL because people interact/talk with eachother and can grief eachother. Hearthstone however is just playing a card game. Its practically anonimious, alot of people even have their account name hidden. You canât grief eachother due to the relatively short turns. You canât trashtalk eachother either.
So if people suddenly have the option to report someone they will abuse it because its their way to vent their anger when being a sore loser or being unpatient.
This would not work either. Because these bots do not win. And they are not playing to win anyway, They are playing to get xp for the free gold, they donât care about going up in the ranks. And like you said there also are bots wich do play minions. All they would need to do is play some taunt minions and you would have to let your minions take damage to get trough. So they have done damage. Play even more taunt minions and one of yours eventually died so they also killed a minion. So they still would have gotten around your idea.
The only way to get rid of these bots is simple. Bring back the old reward system wich rewards you for wins instead of time played. If time played does not reward you gold anymore people are not tempted to bot to get the gold. But we know that wonât happen because blizz wonât be able to sell their expansion passes xp boost for cash anymore.
câmon, donât be so straight forward)
the idea can be developed: won the game without doing any damage to the opponent and/or his minions = win doesnât count + no xp gain
And again, if thereâs intention to find the adequate solution - the solution will be found.
If intention is nill - the solution wonât be found. Easy)
The button can be called report a bot player.
Before a human person will look at this report, algorithm can check if report complies to the set conditions. If not - ignore. Actually humans are only needed if an algorithm made a mistake and the player can prove that he played cards and did damage. (hsreplay)
Punishment can be in the form of a personal in-game message conveying that doing such things is bad and if a player continues to act in such a way - he/she can be banned for a week or two.
Anyways, something has to be done, one way or another (or maybe another:)
As for the new reward system - it now gives more gold to players and is much more complex and interesting than the old one - going back is not an option now) Only forward, making it better. Too much effort was put into it. Itâs not a bad system in my opinion and eventually it will change, donât worry) I can see that you are resisting all of the changes)
like i said, there are bots wich do play minions. this will merely shift to them mostly playing taunt minions to eventually get that damage and kill.
And also if winning without any dmg or kills means no win or xp. I will just start leaving instantly when people with questlines are my opponent. Its open to abuse. I would deny these OP decks their wins and xp.
But the thing is adding such an algorithm to the existing game probably is not that easy and quick work. And again i doubt blizz stores all replays of all games wich people play. People can choose to save their own replay but blizz probably doesnt save it on their servers due to the huge amounts of data it would require. So what would there be to check unless blizz invests in alot of equipment to store huge amounts of data for all replays so they can check them.
wouldnât it just be easier to contact blizzards customer service with your replay and hope they take measures? That would be far more direct than just an easy report button wich is open to abuse.
good points. but active and passive damage can be divided. as i have said before, if the solution is being searched for - it will be found)
No you wonât deny anything. If you leave - the opponent will get xp and a win.
If you leave on the 1st turn - the opponent will get xp for a win. Multiple criteria can be used at the same time.
Probably? Itâs just a normal work, the same as they do for many years. Not harder than making a new reward system. Architect, design and code)
Are you sure itâs huge? Do they have to store the data for 100 years? Or for 14 days? No graphics, just text)
I bet they already have all of the equipment needed, (just place a few racks in a data center)
Could be⌠I tried contacting them twice on similar issues, received no replies and gave up and forgot about it. So we come up to the fact that they should improve their 2-way communication with the players?) Never Lose Hope. I will pray for you))
ââ players purposefully wait until the last second of each turn to hit âend turnâ, again playing an action to extend it as long as possible, while also taunting/trolling by flicking through their cards in hand so itâs obvious theyâre doing it on purpose. I imagine they do this to climb ranks through frustrated players conceding. I donât know how you could fix this one - a report player mechanism maybe. ââ
I wrote it a million times, blizz doesnât care.
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This is an issue that I am increasingly coming across the past few weeks (3 instances this afternoon) and the frequency seems to be increasing, some action needs to be taken to stop it.
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which issue? the bots or slow players?
could any of you fine gentleman tell me where I can acquire hearthstone bots??? I just want to report them to blizzard.
LMFAO Blizz got all butthurt and deleted my post (so Iâm posting it again) because I caught MULTIPLE players over MULTIPLE years who have been in threads in MULTIPLE places using roping bots (which are AutoHotkey bots, easy to make, all they do is record mouse/key clicks and replays them over and over). I posted links to threads with these players names in them as well as RECENT (as in today) videos of ALL of these accounts still rope botting. There has never been a ban of accounts on HS ever. No one has ever complained of being a part of one and the same accounts continually show up in threads as seen here.
The historical past of these accounts and threads about them is proof that blizz doesnt care about bots.
Here are the videos that blizz doesnt want people to see that I posted btw (which they deleted haha)
vimeo. com /manage/videos/720094822
vimeo. com /manage/videos/727151306
I saved my post this time for when its deleted again. NOTE: I posted the players BATTLE TAGS and not just the names themselves. Itâs the BATTLE TAGS that Iâm referring to, not the names of the accounts themselves. So itâs not a copycat account that Iâm talking about here. Blizz wants to be able to use the excuse that these are copycat names when in fact, their full battle tags have been used in MANY forums posts over the yrs. This is the reason blizz doesnt like posting of battletags. Itâs for plausible deniability on their part for not taking action when action is needed. The battle tags are in the videos.
blad blizzard give you better RNG if you spend more money thatz the bottom line cuz. srs.
Well there was the mass ban many years ago when a lot of players got caught (back when it was 10 gold for 3 wins so they all played the top aggro deck).
Pretty simple as to explain why your posts would be getting deleted as naming and shaming is against the ToS of the forums, so your straight up breaking the rules of the forum, hence it being deleted.
Itâs actually to stop people getting falsely accused. For instance the amount of people who post threads about their opponent âcheatingâ by having a card float and having the rope burn forever has been pretty high over the years, yet we know itâs just a server side disconnect.
Itâll be interesting to see if the new report button thatâs being enabled soon (its currently greyed out) will reduce the number of bots or I guess your theory is that theyâre adding it just to make it seem like theyâre doing something?
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Yes, my claim is that theyâll add it but it does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Itâs just there as a âfeel goodâ option. Without proof that people actually get banned from using the report features, then wtf is the point. I was around when the supposed âbanâ happened and I dont remember seeing a single complaint about âwhat happened to my accountâ type threads.
And to be honest, a âreportâ feature isnt even needed to stop roping bots. They can be detected SUPER easily without any input from the person whoâs being roped.
I mean why would you see anyone ask why their botting account got deleted?
All I know is there were a lot of bots, they announced a mass ban, then there was way less bots. If you were around you would have seen it. I donât know how itâs possible to have more prove of things being removed than having lots and then having little.
I have no idea how easy it is to detect the hero power rope bots in all honesty. From my perspective if it was SUPER easy theyâd detect it and ban the account for 2 reasons: 1. the account is scamming xP = less money. 2. Making it a bad experience for the opponent = less money.
I think they like money.
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Regarding Hearthstone. Against player âIzoqwertyââ. Something makes the game stop and reconnect after every moves from the player. Not sure if it was a bug or cheating from the player!