Reusing old cards?

Is it just me or does the so called new hearthstone expansions feel more and more like a way to resell old cards over and over but with different names?

Like anyone remember Golden Monkey? V the so called new warlock card Rafaam?

Or am I just be cynical?

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Personally I’d go with cynical as this expansion in particular was marketed as being nostalgic seeing as the league of evil is run by some returning characters, so you expect some twists on previous cards and none are exactly the same.

In general I have no problem with a small amount of near reprints per set, simply because it makes sense within the standard model, as at times you’re gona want original card X’s ability in standard and at other times not.

But I get why other might not, but even so, I think for this expansion, it’s actually kinda cool lore wise. Rafaam finally got hold of that golden monkey :grinning:

Card games are limited. If you change them too much, then people will leave. You have to stay within a certain range of the original. That limites the amount of craziness you can add to the game, the number of options you have. So if you have a list 300 awesome ideas for cards for Hearthstone, then you can’t put them all in a single set. On the one hand it would change the set too much, on the other you wouldn’t have anything left for the next set. So you dilute the ideas, and mix them up with stuff like cycles (create a series of variations of the same mechanic), reprints, changed already existing cards and so on.

Good designers find the right balance. There is no mathmatical formula for that. If people leave because the game got too stale and boring, then you haven’t invested enough of your great ideas. If people leave because the game feels too weird and unfamiliar, then you changed too much.

i still think it would be a great idea to release some other cards between expansions, maybe a event of adding custom made cards by players in a contest.

It would keep the meta fresh and add some unforseen decks to the meta frequently.

http://www.hearthcards.net/gallery/ <----custom cards

But then doesn’t this mean that essentially they can infinitely resell you the same cards over and over with the exception of a few rules (Like changing its name and class restriction)

I think if you own a copy of that original card like for example Ragnaros then you should get Jan’Alai for free as you should not have to re-buy a card which summons a card you already own.

Same principle applies to the so called new Dr Boom (Hunter legendary), I own the original Dr Boom expecting me to buy new cards which have the same effect is a bit of a cheek.

They cannot claim 135 *new cards when in actual fact that X amount of said cards are basically rehashed old cards.

But the cards are new…even if the effects aren’t. Does that mean every new taunt card released is just a rehash of old taunt cards because they do they do the same thing?

Basically yes, How can they call a 4/5 with Taunt a “New” card just because they rename it when its actual gameplay value is the same as the old 4/5 with Taunt.

Random Names for cards made up.

Otherwise please tell me why a Armed Soldier(old) which has 4/5 with Taunt is any different to a Spectral Gate(new) 4/5 with Taunt and both are Neutral.

This is why they have the “rotations” so that eventually that Armed Soldier will move to wild and they can “rename” it to something else so that the stats stay within the standard mode of play, So essentially you will buy that Armored Soldier just rebranded over and over and over.

Now I do not mind paying money for actual new cards like say in this example a Reinforced Gate which was a 4/3 Taunt and there has not been a 4/3 with Taunt in the previous expansions and I do not own an identical card to this.

You heard it here first folks. Taunt cards are no longer allowed in standard. As taunt cards have existed in a previous expansion they must ALL be moved to wild. Standard is now a pure aggro fest…sigh

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Still have not told me the difference between the 2 cards ?

Did I say all Taunt should be moved to Wild?

I am just saying they should not reprint the same identical cards with the same stats… Same effect is OK in some scenarios like Ragnaros for example.

How will they ever change the meta in a drastic manner if they keep reprinting the same stats?

But you’re basically saying the same thing…because a mechanic has been used before it shouldn’t be used again

Rafaam isn’t a reprint in this sense…it has different stats compared to Golden Monkey, the only thing it has in common is the same mechanic…just like making a new taunt card, you could also argue that it’s also different because you had to go through a process to acquire Golden Monkey, where you don’t with Rafaam, which just costs more instead