Stealth heroes, but everybody can see them

While your idea is decent it would result in a lot of whiners coming to complain about how stealth is overpowered again

Most players don’t even do something as basic as soaking lanes for experience

Do you seriously think they would use Watch Towers to reveal the stealth heroes?

There would be a massive outcry and stealth heroes would be frowned upon at every turn like they used to be

Even blizzard said, they changed it, because how well you see them, shouldn’t be based on hardware. People just changed the framerate, which made them easyer to see. If you can’t play them, then it is on your end. I do see people who play very well with some of the stealth heroes. Now you just have to actualy have some skill

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Zeratul is viable and requires skill to play, but aren’t other stealthers poop?

Both Nova and Valeera have their place. Nova is good if entire team comp is build around her. Valeera is hard counter to a lot of heroes and works pretty well with some other heroes.

Samuro, well, he is overpowered if played correctly.

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So what kind of comp is that Nova comp? Would you mind elaborate your reasoning? Because, as far as my experience tells me, Nova only works vs noob teams.
Valeera can counter some AA heroes like Tracer so ok (hardly makes her viable imo), and Samuro is just annoying, not overpowered.

Pretty much any beefy team vs hard engage squishy team allows Nova to shine, also to have a strong soaker like Dehaka or Chen.

I.e. Diablo, Imperius/Dehaka, Valla/Raynor with some healer like Anduin/Stukov/Malf go pretty well with Nova. They can stun for her, peel for her, silence/root for her… and she can freely roam and try to get kills while others cover the lanes. All this goes ofc if people know what its about and have patience.

Valeera counters pretty much every mage and ever melee assassin. She is weak against bruisers and control tanks. Good Valeera would make people think twice before doing anything. While Valeera is seen as bad is because people that play her do dumb things, like not time their engage etc.

Samuro if played well with his mirrors is extremely strong, sure, not overpowered but very very strong.

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I disagree. Both Nova and Valeera are poor choices.

There is a reason why these heroes are not usually played. If you win with them its because nobody in your team threw a tantrum because you picked underpowered hero and enemy team forgot how to counter it. Like, why pick Nova over something like Greymane? Your team will get stuck behind with XP if you take her and you will lose teamfights and the game due to it.
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Just checked the hero tier list and it agrees with me as well. Nova and Samuro are B tier, Valeera C tier and Zera A tier…then again, they define underpowered as "Considered weak, team compositions generally need to be built around a Heroes in this pool. Rarely, if ever, seen in competitive play. " and since I seldom see these stealthers apart from Zera, I’d say they are spot on. Is it a coincidence so many stealthers are considered underpowered? I don’t think so.

If a player is far better with Nova and is total noob with Greymane… then picking Nova would be better.

Zera is above other stelth heroes just because of one thing, and that is his ult… his ult is game changer. While others stealth heroes have solo oriented ults, he has team fight and setup oriented ult which can combo with Diablo, ETC, any mage… etc…

His ult makes very weak heroes godmode… like combo VP with Gravobomb… insane. Total game changer, VP into Apo + Gravo/Stun… coupled with i.e. KT or KTZ + Zeras lvl 16… that is full team wipe in 2 sec.

But Zera has no other control… while Valeera in some cases would be much better pick, Nova has stronger burst then he does, global ult… etc… Nova would be better vs squishy divers, like Illidan or Greymane… they dive, she chomps 75% of their hp instantly. Valeera can take out a healer from the fight and make it effectively 4v4 with enemy having no heal.

I’m not saying others are better then he is, I’m saying others also have their place, if composition supports them and are played well.

valeera is a great genji counter. Having a valeera makes the enemy genji play much safer, because if she garrotes him, he’s dead. As genji I take DB 90% of the time but if there’s a valeera, I don’t want to risk it. Sure maybe she is a bit weak otherwise but she is a amazing genji counter.

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