Still no surrender?

I see some stuff about this game dying and I totally understand why but imagine being able to finally surrender in quick matches so ppl would want to play more a day instead of afking through some unbalanced matches and realizing that they could get into a same type of match just so they have to wait at least 15 minutes again having no chance at all… or just quitting the whole game then later being punished and then they will have an even worse experience and eventually uninstall the game. I mean usually this is my story with the game. I don’t even remember how many times I reinstalled the game with joy just to realize my past self bamboozled me and I have at least a 3 match penalty. Lets not even talk about those who are left in the game after someone goes afk or leave because thats even worse. I really don’t understand what this game tries to teach with this whole no surrender thing because Im pretty sure MOST games that can take almost an hour just to complete a single match, do include the surrender option. Maybe the game will teach itself that its better to go bankrupt than giving up lool

I guess surrender could work in a way that if and only if all 5 players vote surrender the game will end.

However it cant work if only one or two guys vote surrender. There comes a problem because you may have two guys in your team who have no idea of the setups and how the game should be played. Now if they vote surrender (and they wrong, your team can win the game) they bring the moral down and they will just argue that please all press surrender. Now it becomes argument and whole game is wasted for chatting

I still think it is best for not having surrender button. It would cause much more problems than it would solve

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I would be fine with it if certain conditions must be met like a time period, a certain team level difference and yes the 5 vote obviously or the last thing like in csgo if someone leaves and agrees to not join that game back, then they get the penalty, the current match is notified that he indeed doesn’t want to come back and now the remaining 4 can vote to surrender but sometimes when the game gives you an impossible comp like a bounch of useless specialists together or no healer at all then I don’t think anyone would disagree to just move on to another match instead.

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In League of Legends, for instance, the surrender vote only gets enabled after 15 minutes. This is great as it prevents players from surrendering after someone in their team got killed once. Of course, people will still say stuff like “gg surr @15, trist noob”, but how often do you see someone claiming to give up or be afk and actually doing that? At least they keep playing, and unless you’re litterally amongst the top 0.1% of the ladder, people don’t know how to play this game. Your opponent will make mistakes that you can capitalize on. An early game advantage doesn’t mean much when you take the entire length of the game in account.

Now, in HOTS, by 15 minutes, it is common for the match to already be over. If it’s not, then congratulations, you have managed to resist the initial stomping phase, and all you need is one good teamfight to turn the game around. A typical HOTS game just doesn’t last long enough to require a surrender function. People would just surrender after they lose the 1st objective

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well I main healers and I can pretty much predict the game after a few minutes or anyone could if the enemies are full A tier and your team is full of trash heroes… and sadly healing dead stuff is not fun for more than 5 minutes. I’d rather give up as fast as possible and move on so maybe I get matched into a better team comp where my specific healer is usefull. Would like to mention that abathur can not do anything with deathwing which usually ruins a whole game if these two get together, so another reason there. I would play the game as a dps and just randomly shrek someone here and there without giving a damn about anyone else but Im not a dps… this extra xp means nothing to me when game after game I lose and after a while I just really give up when every second match is deja vu. It really is just a waste of time and rarely when a wipe happens (about once in every 20 match) and we actually win from the grave I really don’t care or get excited… it just happens but I remember how bad the whole match was before… winning is not that fun and watching teammates die after another helplessly is straight up disgusting. 90% of the matches are over even before they began. A typical unbalanced moba game with less success than other moba games… maybe because of the marketing, I don’t know its not the point here anyway. RIP

You seem to have lost all interest in the game anyway if a magical comeback doesn’t get you excited. You’re mentioning Abathur and Deathwing being often drafted in the same team aswell as earning extra xp for playing as a healer, which leads me to believe that you mainly play quick match. Now - and that’s especially true if you play healer - I would advise you to try ranked mode instead. You’ll make sure you basically always have a tank to work with and people are usually much more coordinated and inclined to try to win instead of just fooling around with their champs. This could at least re-ignite your interest in the game.

Obviously the game isn’t balanced around quick matches - quick matches are just here to, well, have a quick match, maybe try out a champion you just bought. You can’t blame your teamates for dying constantly in such a setting.

Also as a side-note, Deathwing being present does very little to prevent Abathur from doing his job. You still have fantastic soak capabilities and 3 other heroes you can hat.

The way you speak indicates that you got pretty weak game knowledge…wondering if your rank is somewhere bronze-gold? People usually dont understand how you should work with your setup inorder to win the game. Therefore surrender option would be huge fail since people who cant understand that will just ruin games for others

since i perfer in that games if Your ranks. but has still unknown cause I still think it is best for not having surrender button. It would cause much more problems than it would solve A typical HOTS game just doesn’t last long enough to require a surrender function.

The problem is redicules wait time and then after 10 minutes wait time you join a team of lemmings. Makes you sick. When I end up in that situation I just start a movie and move my hero once in a while till I get to next game. Anything else would kill the last thread of “joy” I have for this game.

  1. Wait time is redicules.
  2. Matchup is redicules.
  3. And playing this game alone is redicules becaus you end up playing premade groups.

So if you ar a dad whanting to play a game once in a while - my suggestion is don’t - it is a waste of time - it makes you crankey - and in the end you ar wondering why you ar not getting payed for playing this game, becaus it is like work… you do not get anything out of it while some suits sit on there big behind in there big car in there big house and do not know what else they should whaste there money on.

How did we go from “I complain about the quality of matchmaking” to… Honestly I don’t even know what it is. Are you criticising capitalism? The lack of equal opportunities in life?

I don’t know how you can have 10 minutes queues. The quick match matchmaking works wonders for about everyone else, providing you’re not playing at 5 am (and I understand that you’re playing mainly quick matches.)

MOBAS have always inherently been highly competitive. Indeed, it’s not the kind of game you would just fire once in a while to have a good time, especially if you’re playing alone.

It frankly baffles me that you would call out your teamates for being lemmings when, by your own confession, you don’t play much of this game. What do you even know? And I’d much rather play with “lemmings”, discovering the game and trying to understand it than play with a braggy, self-entitled dude who assumes his teamates are the worst every time

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