The hilarious discussion of a "tank pro"

General Discussion
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So my last loss today had a hilarious conclusion…
Pretty much our draft was bad but salvage able.

It was Tyrael, Leoric, Hanzo, Orphea and Alexstraza.
Vs
Varian (Taunt), Anubarak, Fenix, KTZ and Brightwing.
So yea… hard but salvagable.

Then level 10 arrived… so what are the heorics?
Tyrael (Judgement) Leoric (March), Hanzo (Dragon Arrow), Orphea (Feast), Alex (Fire from above)
Fenix (Planet Crack), Ktz (Abyss), BW (blink heal) , Varian (War bringer), Anub (Swarm)

…So… I was the hanzzo here… where did it go wrong?

Well to me it was simple. I couldn’t even poke freely or make 1 tiny misstep or… Taunt, Abyss, planetcracker, anub hit me. Same goes for our support or orphea. And as you know Alexstraza kind of forces us to clump together so I couldnt go near healing circles either.

So we lose obviously… since we didn’t get santificy or get cleanse (thanks alex)
Since either me or orphea gets stun locked and sniped. (Enemy was really punctal on it… my god every enemy taunt was followed up perfectly by an abyss planet cracker or anything)

So Tyrael says: “We have no DPS.”
With Leoric going: Lol really?
Orphea going: “We have no tanks.”
And me chiiming in.

So after the match I discussed it with tyrael.
The discussion went as following:
Tyrael: “We had no dps what so ever.”
Me: “Yea cause we had no cleanse nor cover… we just got shot at freely by KTZ and varian.”
Tyrael: “Well you have to avoid them.”
Me: “How? I am not going to shoot at a tank. Especially 2 of em the whole time.”
Tyrael: “You have to avoid being caught.”
Me: “How? Varian can just jump in cause you can’t stop him, no one can. KTZ has free reign… so even if I dodge varian a chain will fly my way from the front line… if not that anub will hit one of us… there is too much to deal with.”
Tyrael: “I attacked KTZ…”
Me: “So what? He ignores you, BW can heal freely, Fenix can just planet cracker. You dont stop castings you don’t peel, Your DPS can’t reach their dps…”
Tyrael: “Tanks don’t peel.”
Me: “What? Tanks peel 1st or disrupt, you did neither.”
Tyrael: “No tanks don’t peel… or defend… they attack.”
At this point I am facepalming and laughing.
Me: “Thats a bruiser…not a tank.”
Tyrael: “NO that’s a tank…”
Me: “No that’s a bruiser… a bruiser does damage and dives.”
Tyrael: “No you are jut LOW ELO.”
And thats when I knew what kind of player he was.

Me: “I needed you to protect me you know or the support or Orphea.”
Tyrael: “Even if I did save you, you had no DPS.”
Me: “We had no DPS cause it was stun locked or killed before damage… Sanctify would cleanse me or orphea and cancel all their damage in one fell swoop.”
Tyrael: “No we would had no dps anyway with sanctify.”
Me: “So you are saying we had NO DPS even if you saved us from all THEIR damage? Then it sounds like we had a bad draft.”
Tyrael: “Yea since we had no tanks…”

Me: …Good night sir…

I laughed it off with orphea who couldn’t believe how it ended. So basicly this Tyrael just didn’t want to play tank as of needed and blamed our inabillity to dodge at 1st… then said we couldnt dish enough damage period and that KTZ is just an OP hero.

He also said stuff like: “As hanzo you should just D out.”
With me going of course: “Stun locked… even if I D out… I get stunned during it.”

So in the end it was a bad draft. We had a slow healing support vs a burst comp with high stuns and no cleanse. No hard CC on our tanks that reliably could stop anything from happening… and alot of poke that fell on deaf’s ear cause poking would result into DEATH by a gank that again… the healer and support didn’t do anything to stop.

And before you go… no i didn’t paly perfect… I had to litterly bail Leoric out (this was braxis hold out) Then go back bot to do something… then avoid being stun locked… as the tank did nothing but tickle their backline :confused:

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In moba games some peoples have no idea how to play, dont use logic and are convinced that loss is theirs team doing.
I had similar situations in league of legends but because there is not so much team fighting and I played support ADC were blaming me once per 2 games.
I kept hearing that I suck its my fault that bot lane loses etc.
I rebranched to Top/Mid/Jungle and while mine win ratio went slightly down (I had no experience at these roles) I were rarely hearing that i suck. Like once per 4 games (in League of Legends its good result).

Some peoples believe in their own perfection and will always find other peoples guilty when they lose.

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“I came here to pick Tyrael and kick ass… and i already picked my hero.”

So many players thinks their job is only take down all enemy heroes and team do the rest of teamwork (healing, zoning, control, camps, minions, you-name-it).

And Blizzard encourages players like these. Otherwise they would be banned.

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He was actually last pick and didn’t prepick or communicated what he wanted.
Wich only makes this MORE funny.

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This is the reason I stopped playing HOTs. People refuse to learn to play and they just mostly are trolling and joking. Matchmaking is just random. There are no punishments, nor consequences for trolling, no incentives to play better (you get same points overall even if you are worse than your team). No individual performance points. Player dying 10 times a game can get to diamond throught lucky streaks. If you play other MOBAS this is often reduced because of individual experience gains.

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To be fair I don’t think we should BAN players for playing Bad or being imcompitent in the game. But I do think we should have a better system to divide Good players, Bad players and Lucky players.

I am never gonna claim I am a Grand Master of the game. I am master’s at “best”

My skills on some heroes are not sharp enough or do I have the perfect knowledge of the game yet as pro’s do.

But I do know how to strategize and how to play around things. My “skills” come from outsmarting, not outplaying (though i can do it in some instances)
I adore people who have plans how silly they might be. But if they explain it to me or just say what parts work and what don’t. I can agree and if I lose then I am like: “Welp… it can happen. Some strategies are more risky.”

The problem remains that strategy is barely played these days and it’s more about your personal skill as strategy requires one thing the community lacks these days…
Cooperation.

Simply put. I need to have certain allies working with me to win games and certain allies don’t have to. I make strategies that allow 3 of the team to do one thing while the other do whatever to win the game.
I can go on forever on this rant on how allies don’t want strategies or when they do… when we start winning they give up on the strategy calls and make mistake 5 times over to lose the game. And I am like: “Why did you stop listening?”

Overall we need 2 more systems in play: “Invidual effort and Commending/Punishing counts”

Invidual effort is what you asked Tompla but… commending/punishing is stuff we see in LoL and Overwatch. Where you can commend players for playing well REGARDLESS if they hit the top 5 player marks.

You can give points if they worked together, leaded the team or were overall supportive and nice. With us… we need more then those catagories like “Good draft” but also have players lose points like “Bad draft, Played against the team, Disruptive to allies, Low skill rate, Bad calls.”

If we can’t have the negative side… we need the positive commendations eitherway. As it will help us see players how they truely act in the community and if some players are truely toxic or truely miss reported or simply reported but edging on anger.

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This game is dead. Noone cares about players. They just want money…