How is this supposed to be used to combat the god awful goats meta again?
Its supposed to help your goats kill the enemy goats. So in a sense it combats goats.
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By having invincibility on cooldown? Not buying that.
Well, every time it seems like your goats are gonna get overrun by the enemy goats you activate it to save your goats and to counter the enemy goats. In theory.
I’m getting bored even talking about this goat, and that goat… lol
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Its even more boring watching them in action.
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He will replace Zen in GOATs. So you could say he “destroyed” GOATs
I don’t think it will be Zen, he might replace brig. Because he has aoe healing on demand, and a better def cd that will stop most dps ults.
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yes, it is a brig replacement.
so he covers to quotas - kills enemy goats and deletes brig. С-С-Combo!
He also enables static comps that can counter goats. Right now it’s too early to say what’s the meta is going to look like.
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Goats will stay. Just lisen to Jeff talking about it…
If you want a balanced game, just go play mystery heroes.
Little does he know, if we don’t want to see Goats in masters and GM, we’ll just smurf more. ^^
Well, unless you’re in GM, you’re more likely to encounter Roadhog than Brig, so I really don’t get why anyone who is in the 98% of the player base actually cares about GOATs…
- Bronze - 8%
- Silver - 21%
- Gold - 32%
- Platinum - 25%
- Diamond - 10%
- Master - 3%
- Grandmaster - 1%
Its 4%.
And then you have the fact that gaots are still used in lower ranks, just not over used as the higher once.
You can’t believe that people in diamond don’t play goats…
Brig has a pick rate of 2.23% - and that includes the inflated use in GM. With 2.23% it means that you play against a Brig in about 13% of your games. That however is no guarantee that these games have actual 3-3-0 comps, just that Brig is used. Considering how little coordination there is in gold and below, it’s a long shot to expect compositions being coordinated in such a way.
So yeah, if you think that this constitutes a problem overall - and remember, according to the numbers you provided, only 1% of the player base expects Brig in more than one out of 6 opposing comps. To me, that’s not an issue. Every single rank expects more Genji - where’s you complaining about Genji being too powerful?
Brig isn’t a staple in goats anymore.
They started using Ana Winston or Ana Sombra.
When the new hero is out they will use hem as well.
To a point even zen seens swapping and its because their ults can we counter’d and ignored on top of that their def cds aren’t op.
Brig is getting an indirect buff next patch as well, lowering laser damage by 20% with her armor. I’v never asked for current Brig to be nerf’d. The problem is mainly Zarya Rein and Lucio and to a degree D.va.
I mean i have no opinions on Genji, his weak with an useless ult for me. But if they nerf hem i won’t mind.
Quad DPS (or triple + tank) + baptiste + support should explode goats with all buffs to dps chars
Honest question: what is GOATs? Because it seems by now that everything in GOATs. At first it was Rein-Zarya-DVa-Brig-Lucio-Moira. Then there was Ana-GOATs and later on Zen-GOATs. Then there’s FLOATs with Winston instead of Rein. Now I get it - all of that’s 3-3-0. Now you’re saying that with Sombra it’s still a part of GOATs? Because you mentioned Reinhardt - who is still a major factor but only used in one quarter of all 3-3-0 comps.
In addition, when you look at the pick rates of OWL S2St1, they are similarly distributed as they were in S1St1, S1St2, etc. With the clear distinction that the 3-3-0 forms of GOATs where only played for 70% of the time now whereas variations of dive was played for around 80%, fluctuating from stage to stage (mostly due to do map pool, mind you - was there Junkertown, was there KR).
Goats is used to describe a team that eats everything because goats eat everything also its use to say G.O.A.T. - Greatest Of All Time. In overwatch its adapted that goats is a team that uses 0 or 1 dps and the stacking of team based tanks and supports. If a team uses Roadhog, Orisa or Hammond its not goats anymore. If a team uses 2 dps its not goats anymore, If a team uses Mercy its not goats anymore.
Can you give a link for this? I try’d looking for pure stats on the OWL and i didn’t find any.
Well to be honest the composition got it’s name from the contender’s team GOATS, who were first to use on the pro scene
Yeah they got it from them, but in time it moved to its own thing.
Imho Rein, Zarya and Lucio = Goats. Rest of that team comp is flex.