Leavers for me are a big problem.
The consistency of me getting leavers is all too frequent. Occasionally I can get 3 matches during my set of 15 (though I never reach this number) of placement matches before my potential rerank.
I consider this high, as these count as losses, these count towards what my next rank will be.
How can a AAA competitive game be in such a state, that I attract this many leavers? How is this fair? How is this good matchmaking?
OW1, I had it this consistent.
For a good while during OW2 I went many games without any leaver. Now I’m back to seeing OW1 quality matches.
The leavers that occur during the start up of the game is fine. I can accept that.
The amount of leavers that I get where I then get the loss, I cannot accept.
Especially when near the end of the game, but you’re able to come back. I feel you. Or even when you’re winning the game, and then suddenly someone leaves and doesn’t return… Annoying.
yeah, on console in qp you get mostly backfill. And i dont want half gams where my team gets steamrolled while 15 different people come and go. So i tend to go afk if its almost over or just leave myself. Backfill should be made optional, or atleast not done so often,
If someone invites you to play board games you wouldnt want to take over some losing position, where you cant possibly salvage the match anymore
If you play 300 games in a season and have a leaver in everyone,yes.
But you don’t
You might get at extreme worst 30 games with leavers. Which isn’t good. But that won’t impact your ability to climb, if you’ve got the skill to keep winning enough of the 270 other games.
Probably need to win about 180 of them to consistently climb (60% win rate).
Actually, even in football, that “1 game” can be vital.
During placements, you lose 1-2 games can keep you in the same ranking. You need to win consistently to rank up, and losing a couple of games can ruin that from happening. I’ve endured many throwers, leavers and MMR diffs throughout my experience in Competitive and I can assure you, those lost games have a big impact on your ranking, even though those losses were out of your control.
Long story short, the system is very flawed and frustrating.
If you lose the title by 3 points. You can look back and go “what if”.
But if you lose the title by 3 points, you’ve not done enough in the other 37 games. So 1 game can be annoying, but it isn’t the breaker.
There are no placements now. You just hit the ground running with whatever rank you start in.
Indeed, that win rate needs to be at least 55-60% to have climbed from start of the season to the end.
That’s the important part. Look at where you start, and where you finish. The rank in the middle isn’t relevant.
In a sense I agree. It’s displayed in an awful way and the 5-15 causes more issues than it solves. The underlying system is the same though. Just a terrible visualisation for players. But that’s a general OW2 UI sucks thing.
Now I see why you are calling it that. You do you on that one, but they aren’t placements, they are just games and there’s an update after specific results.
In theory it can be. 1 defeat can kill mentality and spiral in to many more poor performances. Keegan’s Newcastle back in the day. “Invincibles” Arsenal after they lost that game to man utd.
But in ow, no. If your win rate is 60%, you have lost about 120 games in a season (assuming 300 played). 1 defeat won’t carry much, if any, weight.
If you’re playing a very small batch of games, then 1 loss will have more impact. But the system, sadly, is designed for volume play.
They’re placements, pure and simple. You either lose 15 to get a rank or you win 5 to get a rank. Every game is a placement game… But you do you…
What? What aren’t you getting lol. You do your placements, you get placed, then you do more placements after you get placed, then you get placed again, it’s a constant cycle. That’s the new system… Every game you play in competitive game IS a placement game.
Back when we had SR, you played 10 games, you get placed, whether you win or lose, then you just win or lose SR when playing until the next season. This time you literally do placement games ALL the time, not just once a season like it used to be.
Makes sense to me what you’re saying buddy. That is exactly how my competitive works on OW2 now. I never know what my new rank is going to be until i lose 15/win 5. OW1 was better, much better.
