As a brig main... just no

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I look at the season 4 changes and my first thoughts are why??? I understand Rally needs a rework but these changes show a lack of understanding of Brig, Rally is an outclassed ult as it is… but now… now you have just used the ult to change her character identity.

So I want to break the changes down bit by bit
Rally

Brigitte now gains 100 restorable armor health pool for the duration of Rally
Brigitte no longer gradually builds temporary health like her nearby allies
This is somewhat fine in lore but the problem is it takes the point of a support ult being a support ability, this part is going to be used selfishly, a support ult is meant to just do that, support, and pre-season 4 brig ult sucks (as a support ult) because its temporary health that doesn’t stay so its just outclassed by Lucio as a support ult, and this doesn’t change that, it just makes it more selfish.
Quick calculations (maybe wrong so someone that is smarter than me feel free to correct me,) in ult she will have 150 armor health, which reduces damage by 30% so thats effectively 195 health, making her 345 health, shes almost as much as a tank. just 100 off JQ and Doom

Rally now upgrades her Barrier Shield, increasing both its size and health
Barrier health increased from 300 to 750 during the ultimate
Barrier size is fine, its a cool change that can turn the ult defensive, but now her barrier has more health than a lot of tanks, if you want to lean into this make her a tank, but her barrier shouldn’t be that high, if you want her to be a temporary tank if the tank dies it still only needs to be like 500 max

During Rally, Shield Bash now impacts multiple enemies and briefly stuns them
This… this is just asking for people to be flaming… this ability alone is almost an instant pick, in a game where CC is rare, CC is instantly ridiculously valuable and people will pick the character for this point alone and suck at the rest of the kit and still be valuable. I was in the camp of wanting a stun, but I wanted if you knocked back into the wall it stuns so there’s counter play, not this…

Bonus movement speed reduced from 30 to 15%
In a weird way, the 30% movement speed boost allowed you to call a target pre ult to dive a person and either force your opponents to ult to save or just take her down, reducing it to now being used mid fight, selfish and again… not a support ult… this is an obnoxious change that makes her unfun to play against and puts her in the firing line for people wanting major nerfs again…

Repair Pack
Range reduced from 30 to 25 meters
Only good change, in a meta where life weaver gives high ground to a lot of DPS that wouldn’t usually get it, its now harder to support them and stops the immediate Brig LW meta and possibly makes it a LW vs Brig meta, but its a case of LW will be too nutty for metal ranks so instead lower rank will probably just be Brig when shes ALREADY GOT THE HIGHEST WIN RATE ACCORDING TO DEVS

Developer Comments: Rally lost some of its power with the change from granting allies additional armor to temporary health, and overall took a relatively long time to build up its defensive benefits. This rework is intended to keep it as a defensive ultimate ability but with a more immediate impact due to gaining an increased armor health pool upfront and the enhanced barrier, which can be utilized to block for teammates while their temporary health builds or interrupt enemies with the stun.

In essence sounds cool… but you cannot call Rally a defensive ultimate with how its used… especially in how its going to be used in the new patch, its not a defensive ultimate when Lucios ult will still do what you want better, you can’t use Rally to defensively save from an ult, but you know what you can do with Rally? use it to buff your health and others to dive someone…

Please… if you’re gonna do changes to Brig, ask Brig players what makes those players love Brig and lean into that, and for me… Its that freedom of knowing I can be on the ground where I want trying to create space and as long as I get a hit within 5 seconds, turn 1v1s into 2v1s and being a mini barrier, I will always be doing my job.

So please… its too late to stop these changes, but its not too late to look at them and think, “Does this fit into the current lore and playstyle of the character and does it feel both A) cool to play & B) fine to play against” because playing against anything is going to be less fun than using it normally and this is going to be extremely oppressive and make some characters unplayable

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Thank you for condensing the issues into text.

The multi stun was the most glaring thing i saw in the notes that will garner some renewed brig hate.
I believe that the shield health is the first thing that will get adjusted in a patch as it’s just ridiculous.
Sure, a ramattra and a moira can attack through it, but ram will get stunned and melted from those melee attacks before anyone can blink. And moira’s dmg is far too low to solely rely on.

As this new ult goes live, i feel like the entire enemy team is required to go on an anti-brig comp for when she ults.
The devs say they don’t like hard counters, but with these changes the enemy pretty much must play either sym or sombra to counter her ult.

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What the devs have been doing with Brig is like cutting off her legs and giving her crutches, then Brig players who just want to walk get to hear “tHaTs nOt HoW yOu PlAy hEr NoW” - yeah, obviously, but the “way” to play her now is just garbage in itself even if it works.

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Yeah the Brig changes are hilarious.

Her power level isn’t why she isn’t played much. People just find her boring.

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i just don’t think this is it, the whole rally mechanic was dumb to begin with.
she was most fun as a low range brawling support, this just turns her more into a low range tanky support.

i think the shield dash, the whipshot and the small shield is good and decently fun to utilize on her, but her regular flail attack is very unsatisfying and the repair pack feels a bit forced to be there because inspire being a bit hit and miss so it smoothes out her kit but i don’t know if the repair pack is really necessary, inspire is fun but it feels a bit underwhelming and a bit too easy to procc in some cases.

and rally have always been an extremely boring ultimate to use, effective sure but very boring.

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She seems fine to me. You guys know the ult is only 10 seconds and is therefore a tiny fraction of the time you play her right?

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I will reserve judgement til i’ve seen her played by good players. If shes dominant in high elos… shes too strong.