Can we make McCree actually decent?

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McCree, at the moment is probably the WORST dps imo, You would think god like players would play mccree as he can deal a ton of damage right? WRONG, at this point, you might as well go soldier as he is more reliable has self sustain, and an escape move when things go south.

McCree’s peacekeeper has a god awful falloff range, I know he’s not supposed to be sniper mccree but like his fall off is horrible. at some ranges a tickle would do more damage than his gun.
Now McCree’s fan the hammer used to melt tanks, now it’s either a bit of a crutch for mccrees to use instead of headshotting. or it’s a “Oh crap! this guy caught me off guard and im low, time to fan the hammer!” it’s more or less a last ditch effort. now mccree’s primary fire isn’t that bad. But it’s not that good considering most dps, tanks, or hell even supports, can run away from mccree, kill him before he can much damage, or damage him severely so he has to run. also can the base damage be upped to 75? Please, i just want to be able to kill tracers, because that’s what McCree was made for. He’s supposed to be an anti flanker.

Now, Onto McCree’s roll, it’s most of the time not even remotely good, sure being able to reload almost instantly and a tiny bit of mobility is nice. but it’s 8 second cooldown completely negates it. now other people have been suggesting that it resets the roll completely on a kill, I’d rather have the cooldown buffed to 3 seconds, and a tiny bit of more mobility.

McCree’s flashbang, or the Wonkbang, as i like to call it is really weird considering how inconsistent it is. First of all, McCree’s flashbang is completely negated by the fact that it doesn’t stop momentum, meaning jumping can completely screw over a mccree if he isn’t fan the hammering. and also, how come when McCree gets flashbanged mid roll, he like teleports back to where he was, and tracers just zip past through. McCree’s flashbang imo, has good potent but bad executions. also it’s a cold day in hell for mccree’s who miss their headshot/flashbang on a tracer. R.I.P

Now, the Dienoon, sorry, i meant highnoon, is hilariously bad, when McCree uses this ability, it’s painfully obvious to see where he is and either stun, hook, dm, bully, or just shoot the damn guy, how about making the sound Universal and not direction, and get rid of the gigantic glow on his face when he does ult. You guys remember where if mccree died, got stunned, hooked, bullied, or canceled his dienoon, he would save 50% of his ult? can we implement that back? because it was a cool feature.

Overall, i think McCree could be a really good DPS or anti flanker, but only if these issues are addressed. It just hurts to see our favorite cowboy treated like this. (also can we removed McCree’s beard? i really don’t like it.)

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I don’t know why everyone says he is bad, he is my favourite dps and I get really good results with him

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I believe McCree is one of the better DPSes after the falloff buffs. He still crucially suffers from the same weakness he has always had: lack of mobility. This means that your team must also guard you from dives. Obviously this is not going to happen much with pickup teams.

In the words of OWL caster Hexagrams: “McCree is an interesting character in that he both provides and requires protection”.

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Not saying he’s horrible, i’m saying he’s really wonky and inconsistent

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If he is inconsistent then your aim is the problem

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If you’re bad at aiming then of course he’s bad. But isn’t that the same for most heroes? I think Mccree is fine.

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Tbh I think it’s always been about his large (head) hitbox.

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Not sure why people are saying he’s bad. I know you can’t compare games but I come from CSGO and McCree is one of my fav hero’s to play in regards of being able to aim accurately and deal good amount of damage.

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Actually I like soldier and mcree as hitscans, but I go with soldier as you said he can heal himself and run like hell in bad situations. I know that this community is really bad at healing with close to zero environment awareness, that is the only reason I think twice before going mcree as he can’t heal himself or get out of battle fast. He is like “hey there I am walking really slow kill me please.”

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mcree just NEED A survability ability like hanzo genji tracer any other dps has , what we have ? ROLL :DDDDDDD hahahaha

soldier have : sprint + heal
tracer : recall + 3 blink
hanzo : climps + flip
genji : deflect + double jump + climp
mree : rock n roll

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Most DPS are flankers so they need quick mobility. Mccree is not really a flanker. He’s got the abiltiies he needs, and if you’re finding yourself in a position which you can’t escape then you’re positioning is wrong. You need to be close, but not too close. His flashbang also gives him a chance to escape.

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I’d take Mcrees stun over any movability/survivability mechanic any day.

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Whilst I agree with you, I personally think that you should be able to roll if you’re not on the ground. Not neccessarily jump and roll (like how hanzo can jump and dash to the side) but like, for instance. When you take a non ditect hit by a pharah you get thrown into the air, or when a rein takes a swing at you. I’ve even walked off a small step and roll becomes disabled!

I think minor adjustments like that to a Mcree makes a huge difference. I feel that he’s in a better place since his damage drop off has been reduced.

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nah, stop asking serious changes.

just pick genji, and you can do what you want.

Oh fun part is, he cannot be stunned, hacked during ult, but mccree does.

Apparently sombra can hack a revolver, but not a cyborg, makes sense right ?

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Most dps are flankers, because they can.

Hanzo can flank, snipe, first line, but ask yourself why he can do it.

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mccree’s only problem is hanzo and widowmaker being super broken and superior to him in anyway making him pretty much a worst pick than widowmaker and worst pick than hanzo even with falloff buff

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mccree can flank too , you just need to think outside the box

i had many games where enemies team there were too focus fighting and i just took a shortcut behind them and killed their supports

you just cant escape and pretty much commit to your flank ,if something goes bad you’re dead and you just feeding

that why 99% of the time you better off taking highground or protecting
your back lines

but dude , i cant lie it’s super tempting to do the flank noon

got so many cheeky kills that way lel

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‘Most’. Mccree is not.

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Any hero can technically flank. But if you wanna go behind the enemy team then don’t complain about not having enough mobility. His kit isn’t designed for a flanker. So if you’re caught you’re basically dead.

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reading is hard isnt it

my argument for mccree lack of mobility is that literally every dps in the game have some kinda mobility

“his gun is really strong” and so does widowmaker sniper rifle and hanzo bow , and they both got insane mobility