Competitive matchmaking in a nutshell

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CoD. A game with no links to OW other than the publisher is the same parent company.

OW built their own systems, as confirmed by their Devs years ago, and infinity ward has no agreement with blizzard to share data, they don’t talk, never have.

Also, the guy they clipped and based an 8 minute video on, Mark Rubin left Infinity Ward in 2015. He wouldn’t of been privvy to any Overwatch information.

It’s quite clear he left on bad terms, and was trying to s**t talk cod to make xdefiant sound good. Despite not having been involved with cod for over 8 years at that point. (He also made silly comments about “we don’t spend $250m on adverts we just want to make a fun game” suggests he might be a bitter individual trying to make noise.)

But, why let that stop you. Ultimately, if you want I believe a dude on a YouTube video, that’s your choice. There’s a theory out there for everyone.

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It’s a real shame isn’t it…

:pouting_cat: :point_up_2:

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are you sure you dont want to? im pretty sure thats your whole reason why you are still here. giving negative insight on a dying game.

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If it’s dying, it won’t matter anyways. So I wouldn’t worry about it.

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They designed the matchmaker based on the same matchmaker that COD has been using for years. It’s not uncommon in the industry when it comes to FPS titles, especially when it comes to parent and subsidiary studios using the same techs.

I’m pretty sure he’s far more knowledgable than you when it comes to what’s currently being used as an industry standard as far as matchmaking goes.

Your gaslighting is really something else.

But you do you and, how did you put it? Bury your head in the sand? I think that’s the phrase you used in a different topic.

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I think you’ve heard what you want to hear from him and interpreted it how you wish. That’s your choice.

Just a quick background check, and I found him to potentially not be reliable.

Sounds more like someone with a chip on his shoulder. If he’s right, there would be some kickback from the media. Not just a small YouTube channel.

He could be right. But there’s nothing that suggests he is. And a lot suggesting he’s trying to create noise to get attention claiming “everyone else bad, xdefiant good, come play my game”.

(Xdefiant has been losing players rapidly since launch so might go so way to explain his attempt).

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Agreed. OW never had this problem. OW2 has been one-sided since release from my exp.

Even if he isn’t more knowledgeable… we certainly know about Rodi’s ability to lie so he’s not to be trusted either way.

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Or you can just look the guy up yourself and make your own judgement.

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The only one creating noise here is you with your constant gaslighting.

I’ll take the word of an industry veteran over the words some random gaslighter on this forum, any day of the week, buddy.

Ok. Want to share some sources from that background check while you’re at it? Or are you gonna make a claim yet again with no sources to back it up as per usual?

What he said literally couldn’t have been more straight forward.

How short is that straw of yours getting now? Must be getting real short the way you’re grasping at it.

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h ttps://callofduty.fandom.com/wiki/Mark_Rubin

Plus his twitter, linkedin. Plus a good bunch of other news stories.

Look, you saw a clip and a YouTube video and believe what you believe.

I looked into him and made my conclusion. Also, if it was a thing, big channels would have picked up on it, not just a channel that clearly has a narrative it wants to push and is playing to a very small audience.

Agree, it was. But straightforward doesn’t mean correct, and also doesn’t mean you shouldn’t check the context before making a decision.

If you start looking you find a lot of speculation that he was never on good terms with Activision and when his colleagues were fired for " insubordination" after a "series of executive-level meetings". And then he’s working on a game that is a CoD competitor… You can see why he might want to make some noise to get some attention on his product.

Seems like Activision really annoyed him (as they’ve done to many many people).

There’s no gaslighting, he left in early 2015. March 2015 to be precise.
h ttps://mcvuk.com/development-news/long-time-infinity-ward-exec-mark-rubin-leaves-call-of-duty-studio/#:~:text=Long%2Dtime%20Infinity%20Ward%20exec%20and%20Ghosts%20development%20lead%20Mark,further%20comment%20on%20the%20departure.

He then went to Quantum Giant for 2 years before joining Ubisoft in 2019 (all on his LinkedIn profile).

Activision have a lot of disgruntled ex employees like him. Have they said anything…

There’s no point getting angry about it. We can disagree on the theory. What’s factual is his timeline

Interesting quote I just saw in an article talking about his former colleagues suing Activision…
“Earlier this year, long-time executive producer Mark Rubin left the studio, Activision confirmed. The company declined to comment further about the departure.”

Them declining to comment, in business circles, is a bit of a red flag. No thank you, no good luck, just gone.

I’m not saying he’s right or wrong. But I am saying this, plus having a rival game to promote, suggests it might just be easy click/rage bate stuff to get attention.

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I’ve seen that fandom page and there’s nothing on it, just the bare minimum.

In other words, it’s just you saying ‘trust me bruh’ as per usual.

I saw a video of an industry veteran explaining in detail how developers use EOMM and a rigged matchmaker to manipulate their players and the match outcome.

You can sit here gaslighting all day but the fact still remain. The matchmaker uses the same algorithms as all the COD matchmakers and is heavily manipulated aka rigged.

You looked into ‘trust me bruh’. Nothing more. You haven’t made any attempt to validate your claim whatsoever. A mostly empty fandom wiki page doesn’t validate anything.

No it’s not.

Them declining to comment on people leaving the company is pretty standard for any company. You really don’t want to try and tango with me when it comes to the gaming industry and how it works, as i’ve worked in it myself.

You’re very much saying he’s wrong. That we’re all wrong.

Whatever they’re paying you for gaslighting this hard, they’re obviously not paying you enough.

You’re claiming the matchmaker isn’t rigged. You’re claiming that you’ve read this/that about him etc, but all you do is come up with either ‘trust me bruh’ or links to zero sources that actually back up any of your claims.

What he’s done since leaving IW has got nothing to do with anything.

All of this, after i’ve shown you literal video evidence.

‘Trust me bruh’ doesn’t work here.

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It was just a summary note.

Also provided an article about it, and quoted his linkedin. So maybe take all the information before jumping to conclusions.

Which is odd, because that’s what you’ve done. You’ve just trusted a source without provision of an evidence purely because he said “trust me, I used to work there”. Which he did, but left in March 2015. So wouldn’t of known anything about what Team 4 was building for overwatch.

So “trust me bruh” is perfectly acceptable to you. But only when you agree with what you’re being told.

As I’ve said, there’s no need to get angry about it. You believe the theories, I don’t. You “trust me bruh”'d this source. I looked into his background and seen there is reasonable doubt so taken what he’s said with a pinch of salt.

Remember. If it was an actual story with meat on the bones, actual gaming journalists would have picked up on it. Not just a very small YouTube channel that seems to have a very specific agenda.

Also, it’s very clear you have no idea what gaslighting is. Someone just disagreeing with you ain’t it.

Remember, it’s just video games. No need for anyone to get spicy over it. If you think scummy behaviour is going on, play something else. If you’ve got hard proof of it, seek legal advice and take them down.

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Article? Linkedin? I don’t think you understand how valid sources work when making claims like you do. Literally nothing of what you’ve posted back up your claims. Nothing.

The levels of gaslighting you’re managing is mindblowing… Really boggles the mind.

He is the literal definition of a valid source. You should educate yourself a bit on what valid sources mean. A fandom page with no info on it is not. A linkedin and the article you linked to are not valid sources because they don’t back up your claim whatsoever.

No, what you’ve done is looked up random stuff that doesn’t validate your claims in any way shape or form, then keep gaslighting even when someone provide you with a valid source, in this case an actual video interview where he exposes the matchmaker in COD, which is very much the same as exposing the matchmaker in OW2 since it is an EOMM and uses the same algorithms.

You’re afraid of facts, that’s the bottom line, and when someone post valid sources to prove you right, you take your gaslighting to a whole other level by trying to invalidate the valid sources by posting completely invalid sources yourself, thinking they actually back up your claim.

No, i’m sorry but you’re the one who’s got zero clue, literally about anything.

Gaslighting =

Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse or manipulation in which the abuser attempts to sow self-doubt and confusion in their victim’s mind . Typically, gaslighters are seeking to gain power and control over the other person, by distorting reality and forcing them to question their own judgment and intuition.

Gaslighting is all about constantly lie and make others doubt what they themselves are saying is true.

Unfortunately for you, it doesn’t work on people like me.

Good luck digging your way out of this hole you’ve dug for yourself, though.

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Pls refrain from toxic behaviour, thank you

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Did he actually try to use a fan made page as a valid source…

:smile_cat:

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No. I used it as a reference point and provided other sources for that information.

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No way new players are sticking around in this game - the matchmaking is sooo bad.

Had 1 game where 3 of my team members were clearly new and the other team was a stack; then had a game where the enemy team had 4 new players and they couldn’t even leave spawn. No way they’re enjoying this.

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I believe that’s where he gets all his info from.

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I think the initial planned change is to implement a solo queue system for matchmaking. This would mean 10 random players would get paired based on an algorithm which would give a more realistic match than what we currently have now. The 5v5 system means any player in a group has a big advantage due to the smaller team size if pair against 5 solo players, which is probably where most of these landslide games come from.

I think its understandable that groups wouldnt want this change as this would take away their advantage and there would be an impact on queue times.

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I’d be surprised if they implemented any specific solo queue (not saying they won’t, but it seems unlikely) . They’d rather you didn’t play solo anyways.