Crowd control and brigitte

The hardness of a tank / support just depends on how far you wanna go with them.
If someone were the best Tank in the game you would be figuring out which contract to go with from the different team owners. :smiley:

Which explains why you have support and tank players spread out from bronze all the way to top 500 and OWL. You can’t expect a diamond support to play like a GM support… Their are varying difficulties, and generally the higher you go, the lesser the mistakes you would make while tanking or supporting. Are you telling me you have gotten to a state were you have mastered playing tanks and supports?

You certainly can’t do much wrong with brigitte.

Mastered is a strong word and i do have a tank only account i had to leave cause people didn’t let me pick dps on it since when you play thank its true that you can’t play dps as well as other.

But i will say this, i have a much easier time on tanks and supports then i do on dps and it just keeps getting easier.

Even if you do, your kit prevents you to get destroyed in a second like most characters

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Here you go a path into the past.
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20759428223

Sites like OverBuff don’t keep histories way back into the past, simply because they don’t have unlimited server resources to do so. You can spot them today, in posts made around the time.

So, if someone doesn’t come close to 100% pickrate is ok ?

Smart way of balancing stuff.

When someone’s at an absurdly high pick rate it goes to say that you need that particular pick to win a game. In other words that hero is a must pick, in every game and without it you stand to be on the losing side.

Still a trash method to balance a game.

You are taking in consideration only OWL stats, which means nothing.

Infact as far as i know, moira pick is moderately low, so, moira would need a buff ?

You are claiming that brig has around 3%, so that means she needs a buff too ?

When I said Rein had a 11% pick rate I was referring to the stats on the ladder, not OWL. Pick rates definitely a strong indicator around balance, but not the only stat. It’s one of the many parameters that Blizz keeps in check to come to balance conclusions.

Suddenly there are different indicators and pick rate isn’t always right?

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They do matter since Overwatch is heavily balanced around rock paper scissor.
You cant have people playing rock more since it will by default make scissors played less. If rock is picked more it means rock is better even if its by a little its more preferable to pick.

OW is poorly balanced exactly for that reason.

Stats means nothing.

The balance is created when you start to design a certain character.

Mei has low PR in all ranks, but how you buff her ? if she is so trash designed ?

Bingo.

Why isn’t pick rate a valid indicator around if a heroes powered?
Especially in a game were people want to win at any cost. At the OWL scene when winning = staying in the team and having a career.

When the purpose is to win at all costs, you would go with heroes that would give you the highest chance to secure that win. And when a hero has a super high pick rate, it’s an indicator that the particular hero is way too strong, to ensure that majority of the people don’t see other alternatives to it.

You must understand these are pick rate %'s that millions of players have come around to.

I guess they main issue Mei does not get some serious buffs is cause all of the outcry of Genji mains. And ofc general people who think this game is meant to be 1v1 face to face up close…

There is much more to that.
And I already said that with 100% pickrates mean the character is pretty much broken and OP.

They aren’t always using the same heroes only because they are better than everyone else. It’s their strategy. Sometimes they even pick absolute off meta heroes because they change the strategy.

NineToes, Mei’s kit gives her certain strengths in certain scenario’s.
Like she is a divide and conquer kind of heroes that relys on certain maps to do her job. I did not say that the lowest pick rate mean a hero was weak. Do not mistake me. I even did not say the highest pick rate of 11% meant a hero was OP.

I just said when a hero has a ridiculously high pick rate around 100%, then you have a problem.

But only because the pickrates aren’t 100% doesn’t mean the hero is perfectly balanced.

When Brig has a pick rate of 3% she’s isn’t even touching that fine line of OP.

No one is talking about OP. I really don’t know how often I have to say that.

Or close to super strong. You must be able to see, that their are the top 6 favored heroes in the higher tiers, and then there is a distribution of heroes across.

Remember for the first time the highest pick rate of a heroes sitting at 11%