Noticed all this briggite mains and Moira mains last 2 seasons haven’t even bothered to heal there teams and just go on the offensive Jeff why bring these heros into the game with such offensive powers obvious people going to pick them and just attack over healing the team the most important aspect remove healing from Brigitte and make her a tank make moirra a damn dps
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They need to be more creative with how they design supports. You can make all sorts of cool support heroes and mechanics without having to rely on dealing damage, and yet they’ve only really done this twice with Mercy and Ana and Ana has major issues with barriers so we’re stuck with just Mercy. I can kind of include Lucio in this but a big part of Lucio is still in dealing damage and charging his ult through that.
If you design a hero that doesn’t rely on dealing damage then balance affords you more room to make the supportive abilities awesome. That’s why Mercy is allowed to be such a potent and reliable healer, because balance can disregard her damage output because she doesn’t do any.
I think they need to look back at their RPG roots in WoW and look into making more dedicated support heroes whose main mechanics can be healing and other powerful utility.
Brigitte really had the potential to be a hero in this vein but then they made the main healing component be linked to her smacking people which resulted in her being forced into an offensive DPS role. Her armor/instant heal could have been a very good skill based heal as it could have required careful timing to mitigate damage spikes however in practice the overhealing element removes a good chunk of the skill required and it’s long cool down regulates it to the secondary healing part of the hero. In games such as WoW, overhealing is a big part of the challenge but there’s no such worry with Brigitte.
So, my advise to them is to make more pure support heroes and make the challenge of them revolve around things other than dealing damage.
Resource management (mana)?
Not overhealing?
Carefully timed burst healing?
Keeping on top of HOT abilities?
Countering debuffs?
Casting buffs?
I mean, a lot of these things already exist in the game anyway, but they’re often linked in with dealing damage which is fine but that will always mean that the hero is a DPS/Hybrid and balance dictates that because of the damage numbers they’re outputting they can never be afforded the supportive powers of a hero that doesn’t do that.
If your supports intentionally refuse to heal their teammates unless you walk straight into the enemy frontline then they’re eligible to be reported for Gameplay Sabotage.
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I think these new healers get confused about how they are performing.
There’s a lot of Moira’s on top of the gold medals for killing, so they think they are carrying. When in reality they are just tagging 4-6 people at a time with the purple ball. Same thing with the Brig cleaving.
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Her healing ability doesn’t really depend on her DPS you know…
A melee attack every 3 seconds won’t heal more than spamming like a nanoed Reinhardt ^^
I think Blizzards intention was to have her trigger the healing with the extended ranged flail attack, which in theory could allow her to heal her allies more consistently whilst keeping distance from the enemy, but I rarely see Brig players using her like that. It’s normally just a matter of seeing them charge in and swing like a mad lady.
When she swings her weapon, she’s an easy target since her shield is down and her HP not so high ^^
Only bad players use her like that ! (I mean if her target can shoot her back or is with teamates)
I play Moira and you would get healing from me!!!
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2 types of people play Moira
- The ones who want to kill easy to hit targets
and - The ones who don’t like Mercy
You get heals from type 2, rarely from type 1.
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Moira and Brigitte are more of a DPS than healers. If you give a support hero a stupidly easy way to kill everyone than yes they’re going to focus on killing and not healing.
They were brought in game for the simple reason that the dps and obviously the tanks don’t give a damn about their healers and they always want to be healed but they do nothing to help their healers stay alive. Brigitte was brought in game to change the meta, no more dive meta which was going on for ages now. And Moira is also a great addition to the game since she can take care of herself and not relay on her team mates that much , unlike Mercy does.
I have seen people spamming " I need healing" so many times when both their supports were dead and not even knowing they had no healers close to them and it’s really frustrating and not fun at all . I’m happy Moira and Brigitte are in game , and I hope Blizzard will make more heroes like them since they aren’t such easy to pick on targets as Mercy or Ana or Zen are .
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Anymore heroes like them and the game is more f*cked that it already is. Seriously, it’s good that a healer can defend themself. But when they can literally do it with ease and no skill it’s just not fun.
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I like Mercy, but prefer Moira because A) can defend myself better in a pinch (sadly not rare pinch at all) and B) feel I have better survivability with orb + self-heal + Fade.
Would like to play Ana, but that’s tougher on console and there’s that whole barriers block your heals thing too.
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Made it even worse by bringing symetra back with this dumb new ult and tps that aren’t even utilised proper which symetras being pretty much crap at damage the game is falling apart bit by bit all t hey care about now is there poxy overwatch league if they just listen to the people who buy the game they might have kept it alive but at this rate this game is slowly dying off with all these unbalanced ridiculous heros
i love me to grab so of them dps moira for free win
if your enemy got a dps moira and you dont win this 6v5 you should be ashamed of yourself
and funny you brought up this topic now conisder the fact that we had symmetra as a support for a really long and zennyata and lucio
there’s main healers like mercy , moira anna who’s role is too heal
and there’s off supports like zen who picked for diffrenet reasons
(for example zen picked for his discord orb , ultimate and ability to deal a good amount of damage for a support)