it’s seems like a mercy is once again a must have , you can see that by her pickrates , and i know that overbuff not 100% accurate , but you can tell that by the feeling of disadvantage you get everytime you dont have a mercy on your team and your enemy got one
i get it , she got nerfed alot , but it’s still feel like nothing can really compete with the ability to resurrect ,it’s just such a strong ability ,and combine that with her insane healing output , you pretty much get a must pick hero
maybe she need a nerf , maybe other healers need a buff (except maybe zen because he’s only one who come any where close to mercy power )
or you can just leave her as it is and accept the fact that she’s pretty much a must have and the most impactful hero in the game
So I guess we forgot that she can very easily focused and she requires a good team to keep her alive, not only that, you can always stop her resurrect and with Hammond coming out, that’s worse for her. If your flanks can’t put Mercy out of position, Kill her during Rez, or kill her in general, that’s on your team’s inability to kill her, not mercy. She is not op, it’s just with the season 11 LFG system and endorsements, everybody is more positive and has way more communication, which then makes Mercy’s team play more consistent and reliable.
she cant be easily foucsed because she got quite a good mobility and self heal abilitys making her a fairly hard target to take down that not many hero can do that “easily” , the only hero who can really punish her is widowmaker really
but you dont resurrect target that too risky to resurrect , and once again there’s not alot of heroes who can really stop her from rezing and mercy can easily play around them by playing smart
even in OWL some of the best tracers and genjis cant really stop mercy
maybe , maybe she’s not , but one thing for sure she’s way above any other healer even zen as far as power level goes
people were complaining about mercy way before this new LFG and end system came , and mercy was a big topic in season 9 and 10
If the issue is about how vital one support is (and mercy currently is the most important one), then instead of nerfing her, rendering supports useless, why don’t they buff the other heroes to make them more reliable?
It might be risky because buffing the supports too much would break the game if combat takes too long.
There is an interesting video regarding whether we should buff or nerf more. It talks about fighting games but the information could be universal:
i agree with buff idea , but you can accidently broke some hero and what’s gonna happen that instead of fixing the problem you just create a new broken hero
so you going to replace mercy with a diffrenet broken hero
and if history thaught us 1 thing , blizzard are way better in nerfing heroes over buffing them , look at hanzo , junkrat , mercy
everytime a hero get some major rework or buff they suddenly became super broken
and the thing is ,increasing other heroes healing potentail isnt a siluation ,because atm healing is a big problem , there’s too much of it becasue of the triple support meta
so you buff other healers and the only thing you accomplish is make triple support even stronger
and what kinda of buff you can give to other heroes to put them in line with mercy without making them too broken
in the end of the day , resurrect is just too strong of an ability , best thing blizzard can do is just try to replace this ability with something else and by that fixing the problem
I really don’t think Mercy is OP. She doesn’t have the highest healing output and even best mobility. Reason why she is a must pick is because she is reliable.
Quite frankly it shows how bad other main healers are. We need to buff main healers or create some new support which will be reliable.
Just final thought: Support is the safety net for a team and therefore you need it to work all the time and consistently. So if we won’t have another reliable main healer, Mercy will still have 90+% pick rate even if she’s nerfed.
out of every healer she does have the best mobility abilitys
no it’s because she can resurrect people
that the main problem how do you buff other healers to mercy level without breaking them ? (ofcurse i’m not talking about zenn as i dont think he need a buff he’s a really good and balanced hero and briggite naturally lel)
moira is the closest we get to mercy healing , moira supposed to out heal mercy because she dont have ressurect - but she dont
her power ofc is the AoE heal and it’s really good but apparently not good enough and with the nerf to moira (she cant heal through shields anymore and if you’re wondering that quite a big deal)
i dont see her coming any close to mercy level
that being said , if you have some ideas how you can buff moira and lucio and anna to a point where they going to challenge mercy and not be OP , i welcome to hear it
The highest healing output has Ana for single target and Moira for AoE healing.
Highest mobility goes to Moira but only regarding linear mobility she lacks vertical. But I must admit that Mercy has better overall mobility.
Yes resurrection is powerful but it’s nothing compare to her 2x insta res before nerf. And as a main healer I would pick always Mercy even if the res would be replaced by some at least decent ability.
Ok here first i have to say that Zen and Brig are on the ideal position right (and yes I am saying that Brig is not OP) . As it right now there would be impossible to buff either of them because they would be constantly too OP. Moira and Ana has to go through some sort of rework to fix this. They need to get reliable…
Moira can for short period of time outheal mercy without problem but that’s the issue fort short period of time and only if there is no shield in the way. When shes out of juice her healing output drops down drastically.
And that’s my point in general Moira and Ana can’t be on the level of Mercy because they are not reliable. And in Supports roles and Main tank role you can’t go for that high risk - high reward hero picks. On this crucial position which creates backbone of the team you need consistency.
I’ll try to be very clear, short and to the point here as I’ve said it all many times before.
Overwatch needs more PURE support heroes.
I have said this time and time again. I said it before Moira appeared. I said it before Brigitte appeared. Blizzard continually and consistently keep releasing jack of all trade support heroes who are DPSers in support cloathing which is fine but it doesn’t provide a meaningful alternative for Mercy players. Brig and Moira are both extremely powerful in certain situations whilst terrible in other situations. You simply can’t balance these hybrid supports against a pure support without doing a situational gimmick as you have done with Moira and Brig. That’s just not how balance works.
Moira, Zen, Brig, Lucio, Ana… these have offensive DPS elements and because of that, balance dictates that Mercy is and must be the best support hero. You can’t have a DPS hybrid healer who out supports the pure support without adding in situational requirements which is what they have done but now the game needs more than just a single support hero.
(( Okay sorry, I rambled after saying I wouldn’t… ))
In ow heroes have strong and weak sides because of balance. If there’s less aim requirement the output (dmg/heal) is lesser. Example Zen doesn’t have to keep track of the target he’s healing therefore the heal isn’t strong, his damage requires accuracy and has slow projectile therefore high damage output and low mobility. Problem with mercy is her damage is extremely low with slow projectile and trade off is a really powerful heal with high mobility, which is unique. I don’t think a nerf would solve that much, instead I agree with @EndOfTheLine
She recently peeked nearly 15% pick rate on Overbuff together with Reinhardt, yes i think Mercy needs a nerf, not Rein as if he can maintain a pick rate above 13% for longer then 3 month’s
High mobility flankers like Tracer and Genji could counter her easily. However the Brigitte/Hanzo meta has cancelled them, making heroes they could easily counter (Widow, Mercy) more powerful. I sort of feel like Brigitte and the Hanzo rework are sort of the source for all these balance issues. I’m hoping that Hammond, who can counter snipers and isn’t cancelled by Brigitte’s stun (large health pool makes him harder to kill) could help the balance of the game (but then again, I’m hearing issues about doomfist so who knows)
i think mercy should have a buff and a nerf at the same time . i think mercy mobility should be buffed and her rez may need to be nerfed depending on how the overwatch community feels about that ability . the worst enemy to mercy is winston some winstons will 1vs4 just to get the mercy even in the price of getting killed in the process . winston is so bad to a mercy so much that someone from the enemy team will switch to winston when he see a lot of rezes in the kill feed . genji and tracer are a threat as well but they wont kill themself just to kill a mercy . even tough dive is dead i feel like when it comes to mobility mercy should be buffed so she can support her team mates better when diving and being more consistent . in attack point games when both teams dive on the objective and its basiclly a deathball collide battle mercy should be buffed to improve her survivability . i think that nerfing rez a lil or not at all and buffing mobility can make her less of a must pick and more consistent .
Problem is with Zen, he requires so much skill
to be effective. Yes, he’s a good hero but you only think that because you’ve seen the pros play him. He’s not suited for Diamond and below players. The amount he gets focussed down, flanked and his giant hitbix outweigh the damage he can do. Which is really no different to any DPS.
I don’t think she needs a nerf, imo i think they need to work on her rez.
I mean it is good now where it is but sometimes it can get a little frustrating to go in for a rez and maybe get killed for it.
That’s what made me almost wanting to stop rezzing as mercy and just heal or power up. I often have to wait for an opportunity to wait for a rez when no enemy is around and that can be hard.
And sometimes i even have to think “is this hero worth rezzing and risk my life for it”
Want to know what really happened to her pickrates? Team synergy
Her pickrate after the nerfs plummeted very low due to people’s disbelief in her success, but after a while her pickrates started rising steadily. From the beginning of S9 at about 3.5% to double 7% at the beginning of S10. That’s pretty average for a healer until the current meta formed withing the next 2 weeks and during that time her pickrate almost doubled again and it has stayed at about 13-15% ever since. Why?
This is all because meta has never been as strict as it was in S10. Here’s how the team composition was put together in general: Hanzo is the overtuned #1 DPS so he’s the first pick -> Zarya has wombocombo for him -> Zenyatta counters wombocombo and Reinhardt has high synergy with Zarya -> Mercy has high synergy with Hanzo, Zarya and Zenyatta + can damage-boost to counter trans and resurrect is easier to pull off due to Reinhardt’s and Zarya’s protection (+it’s stronger in ult-combo oriented games). The last pick used to be Brigitte but since she was tuned down people have sometimes found more value in a Widow/Tracer/Genji
If your opponents play this composition you have to play the same composition or something similar that has counters to them (like for example Phamercy against a Brigitte comp). Otherwise you’ll just end up losing unless variance has blessed you with a better team or the opponents make mistakes.
In other words Mercy just outshines both Moira and Ana heavily in this meta. Resurrect is fine and Mercy is fine. Balancing heroes because they have such high synergy in the current meta isn’t acceptable as a reason alone.
I just want to play Ana without feeling bad for picking her instead Mercy.
She is just too reliable in every situation plus the rez, she is never a bad pick.
We get told OW is about switching and situational picks, but Mercy only feels like a bad pick when getting flanked, which doesn’t require switching, just communication to counter.
