Like come on its 2018 and 3-6 dps teams is still a thing please…
Maybe it can work like lol, you need to pick two roles to queue meaning that you need to be able to play two roles at lest so you can queue for: dps/sup, sup/tank and tank/dps.
Or it can just be a hard queue like you pick dps and that’s what you’ll get.
Dps pick’s can change to tank or support if they want to play 3 or quad tank or a team with 2 supports and Brigitte, but at this point every team needs at lest 2 supports and 2 tanks.
That’s how the game is made to be played or am i wrong? It’s really demoralising to be the only tank and support on the team as well its just a pain and you get nothing for filling in…
I like LFG but the moment you are not using it for comp its useless, on top of all the private profiles and random matchmaking its just to much to deal with. The moment you set the SR cap the queue time is just unreal. It helped a little but its not a substitute for role queue for sure and it makes thinks a bit worse for the people who don’t use it since the chance to be match vs a team that will have a perfect 2/2/2 set up it higher.
Use LFG. It’s pretty much the same thing.
Its not the same.
Role queue is much better since everyone will use it.
Takes ages to fine people on LFG let alone people at my SR that wanna do QP.
I don’t know what people have to gain in 6 dps teams. Its just a mager waste of time and its bad for the games face. More then 3 dps per a team is just a waste and its basically trowling and trolling around. Im sure that everyone will benefit from this, if they just made it impossible to have more than a set number of dps pick it will be great.
Soft role que is imho the best way to do it.
You can que for 2 roles,1 role and fill or fill (This will save a lot of queue time since most players play dps and it will force them to play a difrent role from time to time like support or tank to make everything = )
Game looks to form 2/2/2 teams by itself.
Then if they want they can let dps pick’s be abple to swich to support or tank heroes if they want 3 to quad tank teams or 3 supports.
In anyway im sure that Blizzard can make a better role queue system then me, i just hope that it will be a thing since filler games are killing my mood, i hate it when i know that i will lose or not have any fun at all cause ill be solo healing or solo tanking furthermore getting exclude from heroes that don’t work to well cause they arn’t a main tank or a main healer. And than you have the games that you just wanna play DPS as its made to be played but you have no one to support or make space for you to be able do anything.
Assumed you meant comp. This is a different issue altogether.
They get to play who they want.
But with role queue they will still play what they want to, its just that you will have a real team with you when you do that.
LFG takes way to much time for something that can be automated.
The fact that they are 6 dps shows that what they want is to play a dps and not their secondary role.
Also so far every time that I’ve made a LFG group with 2-2-2 role enforcement I’ve been able to get a group in around 5 minutes. A time not much longer than the amount of time spend searching for a game in league.
The moment i try to get a party it LGF it takes atlest 10 min to just get one tank. It takes me more then 40 min to start a game from LFG. And then you have one team picking perfectly in qp and the other team being garbage and a easy win wich doesn’t make for fun times at well.
I know people wanna play DPS mainly but this is not CS or BF. Their is 50% of this game that sees less to no play at qp and that leads to spawning bad dps players.
At one points everyone needs to have some time on support or tank. Dps teams just make the game a bad experience for everyone even himself. And please don’t tell me you have fun in full dps team cause that thing is impossible. The moment the other team has 2/2/2 and no one swaps its just pointless. Atm you have nothing to do about this but report them for gameplay sabotage but that only punishes players 50% of the time or less.
Im happy that it takes you 5 min to fine people at your skill level but it takes at lest 40 min to find a team that will most likly leave the party once the game ends.
You seem to have missed
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every time that I’ve made a LFG group with 2-2-2 role enforcement I’ve been able to get a group in around 5 minutes.
[/quote] Also your abusing the report system.
Also also if it’s 6 dps that means that you’re part of the ####### problem you ###k
Its not abuse since i get “thanks for your report messege” meaning that a lot of player have reported that guy for the same thing.
No it doesn’t take 5 min to get a team for me. Looking for people close to my SR and setting endorse cap at level 4+ and then setting things for QP only.
LFG is just a big joke that lets people set themself at DPS role and join comp so that they don’t pick anything but dps no matter how bad they are at it. Worse part is you can have 4 people who use LFG to lock themselfs out of tank and support picking making you have 4 dps teams at comp, but i do report that as well.
Its really irrelevant what’s a false report or not with this automated system. Just like they said its made that way so that people use it when they want to and for what ever they want to.My report are legit since i will have a wall of text describing everything that player did. Whetter he gets punished or not is not my consern at all. The only rule for gameplay saburage is that you soudn’t use it to report players who are trying to win. I don’t report people who wanna win. I just report the useless trolls. And since you care so much about the code of conduct and false reporting.
This can get you permaban from the forums and game lmao…
You are useing symbols to say filterd words… but ohh well just hows how much to care about the rules as well.
And please read everything since i did say that i fill a lot, you can ignor this account on my main account im a ana main and my 4th to 5th most played heroes are tanks. But i will not pick a solo tank and a solo healer in a 5 dps team since that team doesn’t care or want to win in the 1st place. And its the only reason this game looks bad at times.
But its hard for you to read i guess.
Yes, the reporting system doesn’t ban people based on numbers but on carefully examined cases
Yes, you definitely don’t report people that haven’t been banned which following your logic means that they are innocent
Why set the endorsement cap to 4
Is it to be special or something ?
And despite that people still use the lfg system to look for groups
Could it be that you are over exaggerating something which isn’t actually true to begin with ?
A) Abusing the report system again
B) Role enforcement
So now you’re admitting it ?
It doesn’t work that way bruv
Stop lying
The world that you see doesn’t exist
I’d like to see you stream
Aren’t my dude
Aren’t
Doubtfull
Let me correct that
‘‘I just report people that I think are useless. If they are or not is none of my concern’’
I don’t particularly but I find people that act like you do scum
What words exactly ?
6 dps
This includes you
Dude they made the system automated so that people use it lol.
Its not my problem its automated. And i do discribe everything i don’t send it blank spamm reports. Now if their no one to read my report, thats not my problem.
Im at 5 endorse level so ofc i will want people who are close to my level and my SR.
And looking at the way to chat with random people i can guess that your endorse level isnt higher then 3… so why will i want a flamer in my team that will say stuff like
Fhifting the blame on others the moment you can lol.
Yet your with a hidden profile that means that you have 80% chance to be a troll lol. I play since open beta and i have yet to get punished for false reporting people. Every day i get like 5 message that i helped better the game lol.
Im sure that if i was false reproting that ill be banned at this point. Not sure if you get a messege when you false report but i have yet to see that as well. Furder more i just reoprt the trolls, and reports work in a way that if you get to alot of reports for the same thing in back to back games you’ll get punished. Meaning that they are other people than me that think that something is wrong with that set player.
Role queue poses a problem with flexing and the fact that everyone should be able to make every kind of teamcomp they deem most fitting for a situation. That being said this system would then be a separate system from the normal queue where you just hit “play” and wait for a game so you would have to wait even longer than in the LFG system. Adding it to the existing system would only limit yourself and replacing the old one would be illogical, unreasonable, unhealthy and very harmful to the game so the developers would never even consider such thing. It would be nice to prevent people from picking 4 DPS that they can’t really play and are there just to practise these heroes with relatively bloated MMR but all you can do is report them for Gameplay Sabotage if they for example ignore playing properly and play over aggressively just to learn these heroes.
This depends on the system. You can receive up to 2 weeks of silence just based on the reports that you receive. Initially if you haven’t done anything you can write a ticket and the punishment can be overturned if the official doesn’t find for example any toxicity or profanity in your chatlogs.
I don’t understand this? Everyone is eligible to be reported despite the way they think as long as their teammates are suspicious of their behavior especially if they refuse to communicate. If you ask your teammate about their behavior in a game and they don’t answer anything reasonable then they’re eligible to be reported. The “Thanks for you report!” message means that Wickedlike has been right and a player has been punished for a reason.
This is false reporting unless they clearly mean to pick tanks/supports and then con other players by switching the metrics. That is Gameplay Sabotage.
EDIT: Also flagged this for the forum moderators and I hope you’ll refrain from this in the future:
Yes, the main problem is that you abuse it.
It isn’t but that doesn’t mean that you have to be a ####
Yes, the main problem is that I doubt that you’re honest.
Endorsement =/= Rank or level
Yes, it might also be for the fact that since the endorsement system came out I have played around 8-10 hours of the game
Endorsements =/= decent people
as you have elegantly shown
Also you’re taking my comment talking about your hypocrisy out of context
I’m flattered that you’re willing to spare me the trouble of ever getting a game with someone like you
Stop taking stuff out of context
It’s your hypocrisy, not mine
Isn’t it funny that people who label others on sight without much reason or evidence are usually toxic. Also forget about the fact that the hidden profile is the default setting
Yes, because you can’t actually know if someone was falsely reporting because of his own irrational thinking or because he wants to abuse the system.
That’s why the only people who falsely report and get banned because of it are streamers.
They’re the only ones were you can actually see it.
Mass reporting your team and being proud
My point above
My point above
Yes and if you get enough people like you who mass report people then you get false bans.
Yep other people who think like you. Don’t need many to get someone banned.
You seem to have missed my sarcasm
Wickedlike is someone who mass reports people, I’m doubtful that there is any shred of honesty in his reports
Sorry but can you pin point me in the direction that has made you think like that because I think that I would have remembered when Jeff said that ‘‘If you don’t talk, you’re eligible for a ban’’
Maybe you’re trying to twist gameplay sabotage into not playing the way that you like but that’s not how it works bud
Why would anyone answer someone who asked about their behaviour in a game.
I don’t understand what kind of person goes around and does this but apparently
you find this normal behaviour ?
No, because as said by wickedlike himself the system is automated, which means that as long as he reports enough people he’ll eventually get those messages.
Can you just stop reading and think about the amount of people that you’ve reported.
Now I’m guessing that it’s in the range of 300-500
I myself probably have somewhere around 200 or so reports send out. I have gotten about 20 messages saying that someone who I reported was banned.
This means that only 10% of my reports gave me that message.
Now how many reports do you think someone needs to send out daily to get presumably weekly responses from the system ?
I’m guessing anywhere from 10-20, with him most likely having a few thousand under his belt
Now can you with a straight face say that the amount of people that he reports is in anyway normal ?
Do you not think that even if only 5% of his reports were false he would give upward of 50 players fake reports causing them to be one step closer to being punished for nothing.
I myself find it abhorrent that anyone in their right mind would condone such behaviour but hey if you think that what he’s doing is right then you can think that
I don’t think that I will as the only time that I use symbols is when someone is delirious and sense can’t get through to them
Though from your post it seems that sense isn’t exactly something that you immerse yourself in
If you get enought people to report you that means that you are doing something wrong. Thats just the way the system is made to work.
Why must someone not get punished once 20 or so people report him in the spand of 5 or so games? Thats the logic they used for the automated report system.
People are free to report for whatever they want. If you are getting reported you need to work on it. I HAD a problem when i was new to this game and i use to ask alot of people to swap. And i got reported for abusing the chat Lol… Now i don’t use the chat to cretic anyone it any way i just report anything i don’t like or think that its toxic and bad for the game. Blizzard are free to do a background check at any point on my account, im sure that i have no reason to be banned for false reporting. Since i don’t report people without a reason, i give a clear discription and i don’t report people before the game ends. What happens next to that player is non of my business is enough people think that someone is toxic in a short time spand then he is toxic and needs to be punished, thats just how it is like it or not.
LGF as little good as it did it did more bad things for comp then good.
So like you said you dont play a lot well i hope that every time you play you get at lest 5 dps on your team so that you can feel what i feel on a daily base in QP on top of this when you can have up 5 players that used LFG and got in your game when they all have LGF lock on dps only. Making you the only guy in the game who can pick a tank or a support in a comp game, then ill ask you if you had any fun…
Ill look for level 4 endorse player since keeping level 4 is x100 times harder then keeping level 3 and its just x1000 times harder to stay at level 5 since you need to have at lest 2 player endorsing you every game. Something that doesnt happen when you play with 5 dps as a solo healer and then lose the game and get 0 endose since its a lose and no one endorses on loses people do it mainly when you win.
Endorse matters and its hell of hard to keep it high since you can’t pick anything that you know is a troll pick or wil get you reported.
Yes getting reported takes from once endorse level.
So why don’t i have random people like myself that report me ???
Im sure that if alot of peope false reported everyone and everything that ill not have level 5 endorse and that ill be banned soon.
When i referred to levels i meant endorsement levels not players levels i can care less about what level you are the only thing that matters is SR and endorse level to me. One means you know how to play and the other means that you are good.
Level 4+ endorse players are a blassing but it takes ages to find them. Let alone once that are close to your SR.
And more you are going off topic non stop no one is here to talk about reports or LFG, im just sick of 5 dps team and i’m asking for a role queue system. Im sure that you will still get a mod in wich you can play 6 dps comps all you want but for me, i think that its the most toxic thing is this game. Change my mind pls.
I’m done speaking to you.
You make no sense and I doubt that any of my words will get through to you.
I know that people often say that you should get a thicker skin when it comes to games but this isn’t what they meant
Just do this ?
And when you are at it tell me how a role que will make the game worse.
im done with the repor topic since anyone is free to take his side.
But you have yet to comment on anything thats role que related.
All you did was flame me with profanities and told me that i false report.
That was so helpfull thanks.
Everyone missed your sarcasm because that’s not how sarcasm works on the Internet where people put “/s” at the end of their posts as a mark for sarcasm
Since the system is automated the officials will have to check your chatlogs and in-game statistics when you complain about a suspension through a ticket. If at that point they see messages questioning your gameplay behavior and that you have ignored all of these messages the chances that your suspension will be overturned and that the person behind your reports will be held accountable for false reporting is about 0%.
I find any sort of communication normal in a competitive team-based multiplayer game especially any communication about gameplay itself. It would be unreasonable and even absurd to think that this sort of behavior is abnormal
I would guess that the range is something like 500-800 as I’ve played since release and reported quite a lot of bot-like behavior where people disregard teamplay and playing for a victory and just run towards the point. I can estimate that about 10% of these have resulted in a “Thank you for reporting!” like you said.
In the end it doesn’t matter since this sort of behavior is extremely rare. If these players aren’t doing anything worthy of reporting and he just reports them for the spite of it it doesn’t effect them in any considerable way. In order for you to get actually suspended/silenced it’ll have to come from multiple different players and if you’re not doing anything that makes the other players report you this doesn’t realistically happen.
I’m not here to condone, justify or do any of that subjective garbage that holds no value in a constructive discussion. I’m just here to explain how things work.
Oh sorry I was thinking of a normal conversation
Nothing of what you said had anything to do with what you quoted
What you said before had nothing to do with gameplay though.
You’ve already given a reason why this might happen
You’ve contradicted yourself
You’ve done no explaining and have not addressed his behaviour
Be this due to ignorance of self interest of some kind you’re a far cry away from explaining anything
Because what I quoted was an irrelevant reply to my original point that I further more explained since you seemed to have difficulties comprehending it
I don’t understand this? The point was that if you’re being reported for gameplay sabotage, asked about it and you don’t answer anything the chances of your suspension getting overturned is 0% while if you answer that “I think this is what our team needs” those chances increase tremendously. Gameplay itself is completely irrelevant as the point is false reporting and actions regarding it which my answer was about. Don’t dispute this because it will go into “he said she said” sort of discussion so I guess we can agree to disagree on it
That doesn’t contradict anything. I said that this one person might do this out of spite of it but for you to actually get banned for it is really unreasonable and that you’ll have to actively do something aggravating to receive enough reports from different multiple players to receive a ban. You don’t receive anything from singular reports especially since they decay overtime.
I find this really ironic, so I’m out
Ill just say that i don’t just report anybody…
If i was in a 5 man dps team as a solo tank or healer.
I ill report the dps pick that’s the most counterpicked, the most useless or the worse of player. Even then i wont report anyone who fails to play that role…
Ill just report that guy that knows he can help the team if he picks something like a mercy or a rine but he desides that staying on torb vs 2 snipers and a pharah is better, since when i’m tryharding i do consider that purposefully throwing the game. My reports are legit and i’ll describe what i think was going on from their is out of my power. Just know that for someone to get punished from QP he needs a lot more then a few people to report him… like jeff said some accounts have more then 1k reports on them and they don’t get punished. So you really need to be report A LOT to face a punishment other than a endorse level deduction.
Unlike you i can’t leave any games or ill instantly lose my level 5 endorse so i have to stay with every team till the end and i have to play in a way that will make them honor me even if we lose. Like i said if you dont get at lest two honors every game its really hard to keep up with level 5 and if you leave a game of QP or get DC you might delevel to level 4. So i can safly say that im tryharding in every damn game so i can really have my mod blown away when i just see someone trowing. I wont report any Torb players or other such heroes. My judgment in comp and in QP is the same without any exceptions since they sare the same code of conduct, even the forum uses it. If i can get bann twice for one tricking widow on this account even thou my winrate was 65%+ only cause i didn’t want to swap from widow only cause someone random in my team asked me to do so then my way of reporting is fair as well. I have moved from this account since my 1st punishment was 1 day my 2 was 1 week and my 3ed might a monthly/yearly or perma. After i moved from this account and i started to play like a normaly player i have yet to be punished for more then a year close to two of time played on my new account. On top of that the endorsement level gives me something to play for other than SR so its nice and it helps vs toxicity.
Im down with people playing dps but i think that it will be more fun when you get the option to pick a dps and get a normal team every time.
Its not fun to solo support or tank and its not fun to dps with an imbalance team nor do you gain any skill you can apply in comp from that. And you get locked out from picking more then 50% of the games tanks and support since they are just not made to work as a solo support. You are left with supporting on Moira, Ana or Mercy and you get left with Roadhog as a tank that can work without a support pick but doesn’t really help the team. Or Rine and Orisa if you have one Support.
You can’t pick Lucio, Zen, DV.a, Winston or Wreaking ball as a good solo tank or support, if you pick them you will for sure not get endorsed cause cause 5 people locked in a dps and refuse to swap. I use to go as a 6th dps if that happend but after the update i have to play on a level that will get me endorsed. And unlike you i play up to 8-10h a day not since endorse was added into the game. So i think that a role que will be so nice and it will hape me keep some sanity. I don’t always do comps most of the time i do qp since at high rank i dont want to fail and lose SR but i want to play overwatch and get the same experience.
Im even ok with 6 dps teams if they faced a team that has 6 other dps but that never happens. Its one team wanting to win and picking 2/2/2 and the other team going full dps and never swaping. And no atm i cant even pick the 6th dps since i have to keep geting endorsed and playing a 6th dps doesnt get you that but since you can’t think you ratter randomly acuse me of that and insolt me.
At times i wish i had the option to pick 6th dps but i can’t do that more then once a day without getting punished for it. Yet if i play a full day of QP ill most likly get placed in 10-20 games with people that want to use team play by picking heroes that enable that out of like 100-150 games.
With role queue everyone will get the chance to play in a balanced team.
And role queue worked out great for leageu of legends. I think that they can adapt it since they low key already took the honoring system from them might as well take that to.