Holy, the sombra change is amasing

I was about to quite OW cuz every damn time I do something i get a sombra on my back. But now it feels fair, You hear the translocator and you can prep for the sombra opening on you and you actually have a window of 2 sec to kill her before she translocares out.

On the upside, playing sombra no longer feels lame, the removal of the stealth deley feels awesome and the 25% weapon damage actually foces you to have to aim to get something out of your engage instead of hitting virus and bearly hitting your target for a kill.

Great job! 10/10

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Usually you have 3/4 seconds, except if sombra filled the 5 seconds of invisibility which would be annoying. All other flankers have a way to engage, secure a kill and escape, but not sombra

Tracer can engage with blink and escape with blink/recall.
Reaper can engage with teleport and escape with step shadow
Genji can engage by climbing walls/dash and escape the climbing walls/dash if he secured a kill.
Meanwhile if Sombra engages using translocator, she needs to wait 7s to be able to escape. Would be nice if either:

  • Translocator cooldown resets after elim (something like genji dash)
  • or when sombra starts shooting, she looses invisibility but translocator cooldown is reduced to 2s
  • or eventually full revert to her kit in OW1
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Non of them have 2 CC abilites.

Sombra has a dash, move speed and stealth all in one ability, that has a 2 sec downtime.
Thats it, 2 sec, not to mention translocate being the best escape a flanker can ask for.

Clearly you haven’t yet tried Sombra or any other flanker.
For having only 2 seconds downtime, this means sombra will need to wait 5 seconds to finally start shooting after engage, which will be very annoying for anyone playing sombra.

You say this like if it was a good thing or making sombra OP, but having stealth and dash/translocator in same ability is clearly breaking sombra gameplay, it was much more better in OW1 when stealth was independent from translocator.

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I tried Sombra, shes great, the extra 25% damage making killing much easier. 2 sec down time is noting, Genji has one escape/enage skill and they dont complane.

And the 25% more damage isnt a small think lol, I can now kill a widow even while shes with a picket mercy, something sombra struggled with before.

Sombra is great, she actaully has a place as dps now instead of being an annoying spawn camper.

I like that Sombra has her Oportunist Passive back
but I would decrease her Translocator Cool Down by 1 second

Looks like they reduce he translocator cooldown to 6 seconds last night. So might improve the game play flow with her.

Yhh she is quite oppressive now, yet she lacks survivability since she has no reliable way to escape. I would trade a nerf in her opportunist passive/dps over a buff/re-work allowing her having a reliable escape way.

Lool are we playing the same game? If soo surely is not at the same level…

There is no reason to complain, Genji has multiple ways to engage/escape, he can dash after securing an elim, double jump any time, avoid walls/buildings, reflect bullets… it has all it needs to stay alive at least 5 seconds in the enemy backline.

Then you get smoked by the other DPS and/or Mercy because you’re in the enemy backline without a way to escape.

Yhh the patch goes in a good direction, I prefer Sombra now instead the permanent invisibility, I only think if she has no reliable way to escape, we cannot call her a ‘flanker’ hero anymore. She’ll be more a brawler like Venture or Rein mixed with an hitscan like Soldier 76. Her gameplay will be more focused in staying grouped, doing some medium range elims like a Soldier or even protect the team against a Doomfist, and take a few opportunities only if the opponent is really bad positioned alone.
For exemple if we see a Kiriko low health in enemy backline, currently the best choice for Sombra is try to kill her as a Soldier would do, simply shoot her from distance, is not reliable to dive into enemy backline like a Genji or a OW1 Sombra would do.
But that’s just my humble opinion who would like to see Sombra as a challenging flanker as she was in OW1. Maybe the devs want to put her something like Venture, I really hope not.

Quite an improvement, to test that, I was expecting something more dynamic like “2/3s cooldown after loosing invisibility” or “coldown resets after securing an elim”

looking at the hotfix… I’d just say. CALLED IT!!

every flanker had a down time on their escape but sombra. thats just how flankers work. And 2 sec soon prob one sec is legit noting. Strife or duck spam for legit 2 sec and you are good, not to mention that its less than 2 sec, since youll prob kill someone is one sec and be left with 1 sec cd to escape.

So sombra sould trade 1 for zero with close to no way to punish her like before? Where sombras only died when they mess up.

And after the hot fix its one sec so its besically perma stelth, since it takes about one sec for sombra to kill someone. Kinda lame NGL

I have Tracer and Genji in my top picks and I have no idea what you’re talking about. Genji can use the map in his favor at any time, Tracer can blink 5 times in 5 seconds and use recall

Idk what ranking you are, but in mine thats is asking to get killed.

Take this exemple to see how Sombra is not playable as flanker in current patch:

You see a Kiriko low health in enemy backline, as a flanker is your job to dive and secure that kill.

Tracer: Blink 2 times, kill kiriko, recall
Genji: double jump, dash, kill kiriko, dash back
Sombra: Use translocator, and either:
- Wait 5 seconds, kill kiriko, use translocator to comeback. In those 5 seconds you risk Kiriko is healed, regrouped, and you cannot do nothing
- Start shooting kiriko while invisible, kill her, then you’re need to survive 3/4 seconds in enemy backline, surely you’re dead because somehow you have the illusion that 2 seconds is nothing while flanking

My point is Sombra is not reliable as flanker anymore, in this exemple the better for sombra would be kill that kiriko from distace as a Soldier would do. OW1 Sombras was more a reliable flanker than the current one.

Bro all you need to do with sombra to trade 1 for 1 is to hack someone and spamm body shots, they die in less than a seconed and cant be outhealed with most healers… shes rediculouse, i guess poople cant aim at your rank…

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If you say Sombra is strong is surely in your rank no one knows how to aim. She may be ok for metal ranks but after plat she becomes useless.

Said someone whos never been to plat.