How can I improve if I suck at the game?

My mechanical skill is absolute crap. My positioning is garbage. My game senses that of a person who hasn’t touched overwatch. Any heroes I touch immediately become crap. I wanted to play DPS, tank, even support. I was good at none of them.

I know there’s a lot of stuff wrong with overwatch. I know there are also some pretty good things as well. I acknowledge I’m a silver newb who knows nothing about the game. I know some people will just say something along the lines of “just play more” or “think about” blank.
So I ask the forums, you guys, a bunch of people who consist of everyone from bronze to the top 1% of Overwatch.

So I ask:

How does one improve, specifically on DPS roles, including everyone from attack to defense. My supports and tank roles I am able to play to a decent enough level. However, when it comes to DPS, I’ll always die too quickly, or I won’t kill anything. Sometimes I’ll be faced with genuinely bad teams; however, in the end, it comes down to my mechanical sill, game sense, and positioning not being up to par. I’m not afraid to say I suck at the game.

To summarize, I am a silver newb, about fall back into bronze. I can’t seem to hit anything with any heroes. When I play heroes like Genji, Doomfist, Tracer, I end up doing absolutely nothing. So, for all heroes that can be classified as damage dealing, I ask the forums; How does one improve mechanical skill, positioning, and gamesense? I will take any criticism or bad mouthing; improving is my only goal, after all.

Thank you for reading.

-Bhugunner

PS-I’ve also posted in competitive as well. In case anyone wants to answer there.

Set up a custom bot game with headshots only and go 1vX vs Ana bots.

I am offering coaching for free. If you want that it would be best if you could send me some recored matches, with audio and we could go from there.
I am not fantastic on all heroes, but my game sense is at least decent. If you want it, here’s a link to my Discord server (please keep in mind that I am not always available as I do have a more than full time job):
https://discord.gg/F5sQrpv

EDIT: Rephrased it.

Use junkrat, you do not need nothing, except a pocket healer.

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I replied to this in the competitive thread.

I’d highly recommend watching Stylosa’s coaching vids and KarQ’s guides on characters if you want to improve on gamesense and positioning, while aim is something that comes by playing.
Ana bots can be good for warmup, but their movement is kinda off and won’t be like what you normally play against.

If you want to improve, you need to work on several things :

  1. Solo aim practice

Go to a custom game against bots. Set cooldowns on low as you wish, remove annoying cooldowns from bots to avoid getting CC’d all the time.

Practice against different bots. You’ll see people telling you to go against Ana’s because her hitbox is one of the hardest to hit, which is true, but you’ll end up getting used to her hitbox / movements and hers only, so you should diversify your targets.

Do NOT rush in with headshots only. One important thing for the brain is to get a signal every time you actually hit someone. If you go for headshots only, every body shot won’t register and you won’t know whether you hit or not.
It’s important for your brain that each actual hit gives you a feedback.

Then when you get better results you can move to headshots only, but that should always come second.

  1. Aim practice against actual players

I think this is important. Bots are a good mean to improve, but they move according to predictable patterns, that are sometimes weird. If you’re good against bots, maybe a lot of your shots would miss against actual players (due to strafe spam, etc…) or actually hit whan they would have missed a bot, due to the weird moving.

It’s important to practice against actual players. I like to do this in Arcade mode (FFA or 1v1’s).
FFA is really good as it’s just mechanical and you get to face different characters, and 1v1 gets you used to punishing opponents’ mistakes.

  1. Improve game sense

This is done by several means.

First, do not one-trick. Playing and trying to learn different characters / roles gives you understanding of said role / character, and how to play with / against it. At some point, you’ll be able to predict the likely moves of your opponents.
One-tricking can improve your rank, but you won’t improve at the game itslef as much as if you diversify your picks.

Second, if you can record your games, then do it and spectate them with / without a coach. Try to determine why you die, why you can’t take point, why you lost point so fast, etc…

Third, watch streamers, get a coach. A lot of well ranked streamers give really good advice, they share their knowledge, etc… You can try and find out about things by yourself, but if you’re open to criticism you can go for that. If you focus on following their advices during games, you will improve eventually.

Fourth, get some sleep and have a good rythm of life. Some people will laugh, because they underestimate how important that is.
To get better you need to spot your mistakes / be able to analyze them / have good enough reflexes to improve. It is important that you take care of yourself. Don’t no-life everyday before your screen.

Take pauses, it’s a good way to keep your focus. If you feel like you’re not focused anymore and get stressed / annoyed from it, go rest / do something else. You’ll most likely just tilt if you keep playing and start playing worse by worse.
Stretch, care about your back. It’s a good way to keep your focus.
Any physical stress is a distraction from the game and thus hinders your improving. Plus, video games can be really hurtful to hands / back, so be careful about your posture.

I think that’s a decent summary of what you can do, surely not exhaustive but good enough imo.
Remember, improving is all about the mindset / efforts you’re ready to put in.
Also, if you play on potatoe computer, then getting good setup with high FPS (in game and on screen) is definitely a plus.
I play with good computer but only 60 FPS screen, and it’s sometimes really tiring. If you can go for 144Hz screen and corresponding setup, then go for it, it changes life.

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For you mechanics set up a custom game against anas, hs only, or just run around on the practice range as mccree or someone else, having a good pc and peripherals is also important, if you dont wanna invest too much in gaming at least lower all graphics to low to get the maximum fps. Find a good sensitivity for all heroes and not different for some (other than winston). For game sense, watch streamers and really look at how they are playing and how they position themselves. You can also watch some coaching on yt from for example unit lost. Im not a pro or something like that but im at least 3600 so i hope i can help. Btw probably not the smartest to play tracer or genji as they are arguably the hardest heroes in the game, try to learn soldier as he works pretty much everywhere and is straight forward

Several people here has suggested ana bots and other practice. I can share my settings for custom aim practice, which i’ve found pretty good. Map: hanamura (or volskaya to some extent, but I like hanamura better). 3 ana’s on enemy team, one on your own. HS only. 300%-500% ana health.

Put yourself to team 2 (attacking team), and enemy ana’s on team 1 (defending team). Having one ana on your own team means that you don’t need to worry about leaving the point on overtime (your own ana will contest indefinitely), and can take different angles. Having few ana’s on enemy team with more health secures that it is easier to focus on one target at the time (6 ana’s just clump up too much).

Start the first point by lowering all enemy ana’s to low health, then finish them off one by one so you get to second point, which is better for practice imo. Then you can keep on practicing without interruptions, by killing the ana’s one by one, and having a steady flow of ana’s respawning. I usually position myself on the left because it gives a little bit more option for adjusting the distance.

Start by standing still, then by moving while shooting. Practice moving in sync with your own shots so that you seem unpredictable to the enemy, but can time your own aiming so that you are not just frantically spamming ‘wasd’ while trying to hit something. Basic concept with mcree would be smthing like this: right-left-shoot, or right-shoot-left-shoot. Mix these two movements. In the first one you don’t need to adjust your aim with your mouse that much, cos your movement, makes most of the aiming. In the second you need usually to counter your movement with mouse. So get used to “tracking” a stationary target from a number of distances while you are moving (in fact, this could be your first practice routine). Adjust your mouse sensitivity low enough, so that it feels smooth and natural instead of choppy and jerky.

I also use lucio bots and put hs only for lucios, so that I can bodyshot them. Put dmg to minimum on lucio though, since they do hs you every now and then, and put minimum dmg received on yourself for same reason. Max health on yourself, and appropriate health on lucios. Forces you to go grab a health pack every 10-15 minutes still, but it’s not that bad. You can use this to practice aim from high ground so that you get verticality mixed up into your aim practice. (trying to hs from high ground is really difficult cos of the distance, but if you’re good enough, next step is probably doing just that).

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First of all, respects to you for acknowledging your faults and trying to improve instead of blaming the game, other people, Blizzard. F

I’d like to add my own advice. To start with, pick one hero. Practice with him a lot. Go in QP and use him all the time. If people in party start “asking nicely” to switch, leave the game, enter a new one and keep using him.

Depending on the hero of your choice, you’ll have to improve one of several things. Heroes like McCree need a lot of aim, most supports need to learn positioning, tanks need to learn when to create space and when to back off (… well, positioning, again). All heroes need to learn when to use their ult.

Once you start getting comfortable with the hero of your choice (say you pick McCree and you start to have a decent aim), pick a second hero similar to the first one (McCree? You might try Widowmaker or Soldier). Repeat.

Once you start getting good with all of the “heroes similar to the first one”, you might start trying different hero types (Started out with McCree? Try Genji/Tracer). After that, move to another role.

Training with bots is ok, but only if you want to train aim… and aim is really useful only if you are training aim-centered hitscan heroes like Soldier, McCree, Widowmaker. Projectile-based heroes like Hanzo or Genji really require an human opponent because movement prediction is way more important than actual aim.

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Just play Brigitte she is very powerful

…… Use junkrat, you do not need nothing, except a pocket healer.