Time to kill, how long time it takes to kill another player.
Overwatch isn’t Counter-Strike or COD it takes (should take) more than one bullet from the other side of the map to get a kill. No other character does this like Widow.
How hard is it to play widow?
As hard as it is to click peoples heads, the game have been out for a while and people are starting to get pretty damn good even at lower ranks
She doesen’t have to do any work in order to get to insane positions where she has a great view and is really hard to get to.
The Chargeup is a joke, you can do max damage almost instantly after zooming (anyone remember sniper in TF2?)
Wallhack for the entire team, I have no idea how this ever got put into the finished version of the game
What can i do against widow?
Be behind a rein shield, let’s just hope it isn’t destroyed or lowered at any time (see shield hopping or attacking with the shield constantly up without a lucio)
Not show myself, But in a game that revolves around charging your ultimate this seems like a bad idea. (see wallhack)
Hope the widow misses -_-
So the ball is always on her side of the court and you just have to hope, personally im starting to lose hope.
Also fix role queue how hard can it be?
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Honestly yes.
I moan about Bastion a lot but at least Bastion has specific counters (Sombra, Junkrat, Pharah and other shieldbusters). The only way to counter Widowmaker is to be a better Widowmaker.
If Blizzard gave her a damage falloff range, even an insane range like 200m minimum, I’d feel much safer sticking my head out of spawn without worrying it’ll get blown off. 300 burst hitscan damage with unlimited range sounds so overpowered even when you put it on paper.
(The Infra-Sight I’m not fussed about because it’s only temporary, and unless you’re attacking and there’s very little time left, you can just sit behind a wall and wait it out.)
Another nerf I thought of is reducing the headshot damage against armour, although this would have to carry over to Hanzo too. Suddenly Winston doesn’t lose half his healthpool trying to dive on the snipers, and D.Va doesn’t burn her whole right click meter keeping any follow-up damage from finishing him off. (I know you can avoid that by doing a mid-air 180 but in the middle of a fight it’s hard to remember that.)
From playing widow myself (average skill lvls)
It often comes down to the team backing widow up.
Winston dives me, i grapple, i know hes comming for me so I kinda need to get away further…
Nobody cares about that Winston.
I die.
Now my team doesn’t want me to die:
D.va dives me, but i have a zarya bubble already and my d.va is here to help me out.
I survive and look for another target or reposition.
Personally i agree to a extend to the charge rate.
But Overwatch is a fast game. And as silly as i am, i sometimes shoot a bit to early leading to a 2hp surviving hanzo. Which hs me 1sec later.
As a widow player with more then 500k h over all accounts i have to disagree.
They are team comps that can make you feel useless on widow by just ignoring you and cyceling deff cds at that point i find it much better to just go on Hanzo and just spamm true everything at that point.
On top of that they are team comps that can opprese you by diving you.
Stats atm show that ashe is wining more as well, even in GM.
Widow in GM
3.59% pick
54.23% win
Ashe in GM
2.81% pick
57.20% win
If you have a problem with widow get something that can make her retreat from high ground, that’s the most simple way to reduce her killing power.
No other character is that much based on aiming since the only way she can do DMG is by aiming perfectly. Every other hero has another ability to do DMG or at least his/her ultimate can do so but Widow? Fully depending on your aim.
I mean she needs to hold that amazing position. The enemies can shoot you, dive you or try to snipe you as well. So the life is no as easy as you might think.
This is not true. Yes, she charges her percentage pretty quick but yous till need to kind of wait. You need to get it “in your feelings”. You need to feel when it`s enough to kill a Zen and when its enough to kill an enemy Widowmaker.
I mean it is perfect actually. Widowmakers thingy on her had are glasses that can make her see through walls. And this is only a good ultimate before or after a fight. During a teamfight there is no reason for her sights, I mean you can see the enemy anyways.
And before a fight/after one you can just not peak the Widowmaker or be behind a shield, then she can see you but can not headshot you like she would do if you would peak her or be behind nothing.
Play dive
Play a sniper yourself
Put pressure on her
Play behind a shield
Play behind natural cover
And if you have to cross a Widows path then move unpredictable. Which means spam crouch and then stop, move, out of the blue, to the other side you were walking and then go “normal” again.
Try to make it as hard as possible to throw off her aim.
You mean Hammond? I don’t get this one, I am sorry.
They will not because they said that they want everyone to know every hero and that OW is a game around being flexible. So they said that there will be no role selection if you don’t use the new feature which they made a while ago already.
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In my opinion Overwatch should try to have much longer fights. Which means remove Widow’s headshots. You could as well remove her entirely but that would be too dramatic so I guess we’ll need to find another use for her.
In fact remove all headshots, all oneshot kill abilities and give people much more health or drastically lower damage for everyone, or both.
Balance everything out and make this game more about strategy and group coordination rather than about personal skill.
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So we either double the dmg of everything that can hs.
Or we half the dmg of everything that can’t.
But I’m still against it.
Reaction time is a important skill.
Like this you have twice the time to react to a flanker…
But I kinda like the double dmg all the time for like tracer, without having to rely on hs.
Cool.
I don’t like trump.
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Widow is no problem…
- pick Winston and jump Widow.
- pick d.va kill widow
- pick genji kill widow
- pick widow kill widow
- pick tracer kill widow
Widow has SOOOO many counters… if you lose against widow that’s on you, not on the game.
Thats much hope in low levels. It’s full of mindless charging reins, I would rather count on an orisa.
All the characters have their counters. Widows is sombra. I enjoy killing widows a lot, because if they cannot aim then they are just placeholders, do no good for the team.
I usually walk up to widow and put a clip into her head, if she doesn’t die instantly I bash her to death, for second time she will be more aware and will try to jump around or hook into another point in which I can just tele back on a healthpack find her new location wait until she “trying to snipe” and rinse and repeat 
Widow is fine.
If anything: Genji, Hanzo, Mcree, Reaper, Moira need to be deleted or nerfed.
I play sombra a lot and I agree on most of the things you wrote here. Just your last sentence: Keep your teleport and when she uses hook, just throw the teleport after her and finish her off.
I know, more risky, but you get used to it. I see many Sombras not using teleport actively during fight. You still have 200hp (like cree) and healers around.
This is so true.
Widowmaker is seriously broken.
In fact, now that everyone wants to play reaper, widow is gonna be played a lot more to counter it.
Good luck ever playing Ashe or Soldier.
I can see Hanzo needing to be nerfed for the same reasons as widow, but how the hell do you think mcree and moira are broken?
Here’s why each of those heroes are NOT broken.
Genji : Has hard counters and soft counters. Strongest ability only lasts for 2 seconds and only protects his front-side. How to Counter?
Pick Mcree, Mei, Winston, Lucio, Moira, Zarya
Mcree : Has TONS of hard counters and every fight is literally a skill-based match-up. If you lose to mcree, you either failed to beat him in an aim duel, or allowed him to sneak up on you. I can’t believe you’re calling mcree op when widow is literally superior to him in every aspect as a hitscan.
How to Counter? Pick widowmaker or hanzo and outrange him, or simply, GIT GUD.
I picked winston and jumped her, then she grapple a mile away and shot me.
Next life, I waited for her cooldown. She headshot me on the way in, back up slightly, and headshot me again and killed me.
Third life, I do the butt jump to prevent that. She bodyshots me on the way in, gets a pocket healer out of nowhere, and headshots me out of existence.
D.VA can actually threaten widow in most cases, so that’s true.
Genji can also threaten widow, but here’s the thing :
his dash is literally half the range of her grapple
Pick widow and kill widow?
this is literally her only counter outside of d.va. a mirror match. that’s stupid.
Pick TRACER?!
If she has a pocket, which a lot of widows do, one bodyshot means a dead tracer!