Ideas for Moira changes?

Considering how Blizzard are trying to change Moira to be in line with other supports, especially for 2-2-2, what ideas do you all have for changing Moira, if at all?

Personally, I’d make biotic grasp pass through shields, but, reduce the DPS, while also increasing the life steal. This way, she can charge her healing easier, but can’t use it to get cheesy kills, while also hopefully have it be useful enough to keep Moira alive via self heal until her team kills whoever jumped on her.

Moira is a balanced, fun hero who requires absolutely no changes.

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Moira isn’t bunker buster, she is flanker bully. Why would her grasp be better than basically every left click in the game?

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You’re welcome to explain what you think is wrong with her. And if you say anything that includes the phrase “no utility” that proves you don’t know what you’re talking about.

She is overpowered, her dmg ball is too strong and barely counterable, she is the only support who can deal out enough damage to nearly solo carry a team. Her Ult charges way too fast, “no utility” a 4 second selfcleanse and quick getaway is no utility? Please.

Moira has indeed lots of damages and healing input be at the higher elo, she is useless cause she provide 0 utility to her team.
The fade buff was ridiculous (and im a main Moira), what she need is something that bring utility to her team.

She is overpowered

No, you just suck.

her dmg ball is too strong and barely counterable

Move out of the way.

she is the only support who can deal out enough damage to nearly solo carry a team

Either you are playing in sub-bronze or you don’t know how much damage she actually does. Hint: it’s not a lot.

Ok I’m gonna explain this to both of you. She does 50DPS. Even Winston does 60. Her damage is the lowest of any character in the game… Baby D.va does 98. Please actually play the hero before insisting that she’s overpowered… or in this case you think she’s both OP and useless, as if that makes sense.

Her utility is the highest healing output of any support.

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deletion
sick of all her busted range and damage
takes no skill whatsoever
no tracking
no movement

I am a main Moira and i don’t call her OP or useless, i just describe what most players consider as the general truth about her, her perks but also her limits.

So let me rephrase it, Moira compared to the other supports as a good damage input, sure it is low but its consistent requiring just some tracking as the hitbox is generous. And yes her healing is gigantic and is super useful for packed teamamtes.
But in the higher elo doing damage and huge healing is not enough, you need to bring so sort of extra utility to the team, Mercy as her res, Lucio the speed boost, Zen the discord, Briggite has her armor and stun Baptiste the immortality field and Ana the sleep and nade.

All the support has something that doesn’t heal but support their team and this is this thing that Moira is missing and makes her less useful the more you climb.

In platinum she is the 2nd most picked support and immediately goes to 5th (Brig and Baptiste are below) once you reach Diamond to be the last picked in GM.

Again i don’t call Moira useless or OP i play her in plat elo and she can be quite effective against disorganized team. But i know that once the enemy team can coordinate their strikes she is lacking the utility the other support have.

And even if its now reverted her fade buff was not a good idea as it was just helping Moira to be more aggressive and not to buff her support role.

But in the higher elo

I don’t really care about “higher elo”, we shouldn’t balance the game around the top 2% of players. And it makes no sense to tack stuff onto a balanced hero just because they aren’t amazing. Not every hero can have a 100% pick rate.

I don’t really care about “higher elo”

Either you are playing in sub-bronze […]

I guess you don’t care about anything lol

btw, most played hero in this comp and all the comps before (after she was introduced). Her dmg is busted, not because of dps, but because of how easy you can dish out the dps.

Yeah, Baby Dva might be higher, but you would need to hit every shot, while playing Moira you basically just have to aim in the general direction, while getting your health back. You also forgot a little ball she can throw out to deal damage with (even goes through shields), increasing her dps dramatically and absolutely destroying squishes with little to no effort.

I guess I just suck playing her and getting every gold medal with little effort, or maybe you are just in denial that she is easy, to the point where she’s broken.

As Broken as other heroes are in lower leagues, she is broken in the ones where the most people are playing.

They should give her an headshot

Moira needs a nerf!!
1 vs 1 she is a nightmare to kill all you have to do is A-D spam whilst holding right click you dont have to aim but the Damage hero has to hit you while you are moving crazy fast left and right

She does 50 damage just with the right click add the ball of bull sht orb and its 100 damage per second!!
All that while getting health back!

Every game I play using Moira I get the most Eliminations, Hero damage and by far the most healing

People say but shes got no utility like ana and bapt but why the hell does she need it when she can out Damage and Heal the whole team!

Her dmg is busted, not because of dps, but because of how easy you can dish out the dps.

It’s the exact same as Symmetra and Zarya but with LOWER DAMAGE. Zarya does up to 4x the damage!

I guess I just suck playing her and getting every gold medal with little effort, or maybe you are just in denial that she is easy, to the point where she’s broken.

If you can’t beat a Moira you suck, sorry. No change is needed, no matter how much people try and get her destroyed like Mercy and Brig.

It’s the exact same as Symmetra and Zarya but with LOWER DAMAGE. Zarya does up to 4x the damage!

But you NEED TO AIM

If you can’t beat a Moira you suck, sorry. No change is needed, no matter how much people try and get her destroyed like Mercy and Brig.

I’m playing a Moira and she is easy, do you understand?

But you NEED TO AIM

Oh you’re one of the idiots who think Moira’s beam locks on?

I’m playing a Moira and she is easy, do you understand?

I understand that you have an hour on Moira and you main Zen. Clearly I know more about the character than you do.

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Oh you’re one of the idiots who think Moira’s beam locks on?

Your insults only reflect your own insecurities. No, it’s not like old symmetra lock on, but it certainly isn’t hard to hold mouse 2 in the general direction of your enemy.

I understand that you have an hour on Moira and you main Zen. Clearly I know more about the character than you do.

I don’t “main” anything, because this is a very dynamic game about counter picking and exposing weaknesses. I “main” the support group and I have a total of 30 hours with Moira. Then again, you can easily learn Moira in 2 hours or less.

Yet again, I think you are just annoyed or mad that people say that she is strong, because she is strong. Strong and easy. I like her concept of dealing damage to get heals back, also her Fade and Orb are okay as they are (as abilities) just lower the amount of damage she does, or remove the damage ability of the orb.

She has no utility? You don’t need utility if you have a 3rd dps/heal hybrid.

Baby D.va is not supposed to hit every shot and make damage tho, she is supposed to get her ult as fast as possible by shooting the tanks.

No it just means that your DPS are trash if you still get the gold damage and heal. Or it means that you’re not healing enough with a Moira.

As every hero. Even moira, trust me. I really think that her left click is way better and “smart” than a dumb flashbang+left click which require no aim. She actually need more aim than many hero in the game. Just open your eyes.

Then stop complaining and main her if she is that easy i don’t see where’s the problem. :slight_smile: