A common misconception at lower elo is that is that 76 in many ways hard counters Pharah, as well as Cree. The problem is that 76 takes about 7 shots to kill her, and cree has no mobility so sometimes a cree can struggle with taking down a Pharah.
Ana works well too but Ana shouldn’t solo focus Pharah or Pharmercy.
That being said, D’va hard counters Pharah along with Widow. If you’re a D’va who can’t solo kill a Pharah, do not blame your dps for not killing Pharah, period. She has a huge hitbox, and your rocket combo can easily 1 shot her. You’re just as much at fault, if not MORE, than them.
D.va does not hard counter pharah. What are you talking about. In my 300 hours of playing pharah ive never been hard countered by a d.va lol. Widow is a hard counter.
Damage that kills Pharah every single time, and it’s one of the main reason why her missiles were nerfed slightly, and one of the reasons why D’va is still top tier. A D’va alone should solo ground Pharah. Valkia is a top tier Pharah and he talks about how D’va is one of the biggest counters to Pharah counters because of it. D’va also counters Phar-mercy hard because she can keep shooting a Mercy at range with her pellets and the mercy can’t regen HP.
Valkie is a terrible pharah. I can easily change my flight path and duck any one of her combos and destroy her mech. I dont even need a mercy. And d.va cant 2v1 against pharamercy. I have 300 hrs on pharah. Please stop this nonsense. Its all untrue.
You can’t duck her combo because she can also matrix while she rockets, even you duck down, D’va is more mobile than Pharah. A D’va can 1v1 a Pharah Mercy and win, that’s why D’va is considered one of the best counters to Pharah Mercy because keeps the Mercy from hilling.
So what if she matrix and rockets. Her combo is predictable and easily avoidable. There is not one person that thinks dva is a hard counter. Ive never had to swotch because there was a d.va on the enemy team. Like i said. Im speaking from experience
So some things about pharah I want to just throw out here
Widowmaker is only a hard counter if the pharah just floats in the air. A good pharah will use the environment to get up close and then use her mobility to dive onto widowmaker.
Dva does play a big role against Pharah. It’s dva’s job to help pressure, even if you can’t kill pharah all the time. Dva can negate a pharah ult, make her kill herself without losing her mech or just matrix most of it.
That being said, there is no hard counter to pharah, it just depends on the skill level of the pharah themselves. Most players think hitscans hard counter pharah due to the fact that pharah players typically just float in the air, making themselves easy targets.
No, Dva is not a hard counter to Pharah, but she can definitely kill her. Boost with cannons, tip up, cancel boost and rocket, and it doesn’t matter how much you dip or weave. A good Dva will demolish a Pharah 1v1.
Thing is that Dva can rarely afford to 1v1 Pharah, unless the rest of the opposing team is garbage.
So no, Dva is not a hard counter, but she is lethal if she gets in range.
Both you and OP seem to have a very black/white view of the game, and as a bonus you trash-talk a t500 Pharah.
You mean that Dva+Widow together makes it impossible for Pharah to stay alive? Depends on the map. On Junkertown sure, on Nepal Shrine not really.
There are so many factors playing into this. Team comp, enemy team comp, map, playstyle. It’s impossible to say any hero will hard counter anyone in a 6v6 game.
I dont care if hes top 500. I really dont. Ive already proven this guys post to be nonsense as everyone agress with what i just sad which is that dva is not a hard counter. Pack it up
You haven’t proven anything, you have people agreeing with you regarding one of your points. Most of what you’re saying beyond “Dva is not a hard counter” is wrong, you do not become t500 without being really good at the game.
And “pack it up?” Really? Does that usually work for getting people to stop pointing out your mistakes?
Pack it uppppppopp dva is not a hard counter. Bye. Get over it. I dont care about a top 500 in a game with a gimmick sr system. Bye. Im bored with this. Will continue to play pharah while NOT being hard countered by d va
If she’s no where near your team it can also backfire diving her as DVA; esp if she has a pocket. Takes like 2 seconds for a de-mech if you just fly on over to the enemy team. But if she’s nearby with no pocket I’ve never had a problem picking her off.
In most cases I prefer dealing with pharah using mid range hitscan heros like mccree or soldier. The good thing about this is that these heros are quite general purpose to be used in other situations as well.
Some pharah players on some parts of the maps can fly super high where they are out of mid range. Then I prefer widow or ana to deal with it but those heros aren’t so general purpose and might not be able to contribute that match during the rest of the match.