Lets talk about widow?

so Yes widow is ether very great or poar but usually outshined by other hero’s

In trailers she’s seen as the perfect assassin but takes time to master but then ashe has completely outshined her thanks to both bob and dynamite

I thought of 3 things that could help and if you have any plz let me know

-passive-
100% bullets penetrate trough the enemy’s , orisa’s shields and zaries bubbles however not rian hearts

Press F this is pc for me
while in snipers aim will have the option to zoom the optic inwards or outwards

Ult will remain however while in snipers scope is automatically at 100% and bullets will have venom like her mines

What do you think of this? note i do not hate on widow i just think to give more to her kit

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She can one shot half the lobby so it’s kind of a balance way she has a weak defensive side but she can dominate if it’s in the right hands she could use a new ability or either a whole new rework but i have to agree with you in one thing she outshined compared to Ashe and Hanzo.

Are you using google translate?

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A few hits and she can ult which gives you intel on where your opponent is which is a very powerful thing to have.

Snipers should be skill shots. Widow isn’t a skill shot (Hanzo is neither), you just randomly click 6 times and if one of them hits the head, a squishy is gone, just by pure luck. What she really needs is for her zoom to not scale linear but quadratically, meaning that while her fully loaded damage is fine, her half-loaded damage shouldn’t be half of that but instead just a quarter. For people that actually aim and load up her shots, nothing would change. For bursters, a lot would change.

And yes, you talk about buffs, I talk about nerfs, because she’s still one of the most picked DPS heroes. Buffing her would be like buffing Zarya - missing the point.

Widow is already a broken hero, please don’t.

widow outshined by other heroes? good joke april 1st is 4 weeks back now actually widow/hanzo makes most of the dps heroes unviable cause of their potential to get picks easier than other heroes

Widow is already very strong. You’re right saying she takes time to master. She’ll only be good in the right hands.

She is absolutely not outshined by Ashe which has seen 0 use in pro play. Widow can one shot, Ashe cannot.

She’d be compared more to Hanzo who also is a bit different. She has no equal at long range.

Your proposition is absurd for those reasons.

Looks like text to speech to me (“rhine heart”)

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If she was able to penetrate shields, ultra-zoom and DoT damage on top of her already incredibly long range, great vantage-finding, precision, massive damage and ability to fire in quick succession when you just can’t find that one-shot… then she really would need a massive nerf somewhere.

I already feel her rate of fire while scoped is too much and provides Widowmaker too much safety in repeated body shots, or making up for scuffed killshots.

Honestly, I would prefer if her threat was more based around her Ultimate windows because Snipers in any video game just suck the fun out of things. Hanzo including! What makes him worse is the damn “I wield a bow, but here it fires like a machinegun” Storm Arrow bullcrap going on…

How does widow take time to master? She takes no game sense, no positioning, has no cooldowns to manage, no counters, an ult you can get max value out of from spawn and half the aim requirement of any other dps. You could play CS for a while, pick up Overwatch and play widow at t500 from level 1.

I think widow is fine… my only annoyance with her is other widows lol…
(worst case of Evil clone syndrome in overwatch)

also it kind annoys me when i get a crazy multi kill streak and then some hanzo steal all the potg glory with a big fat no skill dragon ult… (yeah good aim hitting them with an arrow the size of a buss)

I am totally going to find a way to shink that thing in workshop so i can see the look on the hanzo player face (metaphorcally speaking) when it’s a tiny little pair of chibi dragons :rofl:

Do you have your enemies in CS climbing walls, flying in the air, leaping at you from great distances or deploy shields? Also since when did you have a tool which lets you leap a great distance into the air in CS?

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yeah and let’s not forget Diving D.va’s , Sneaky sombras and the occasional crazed valking battle mercy that just got nano’ed and is now a Apache attack helicopter gunning for you :rofl:

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I don’t know about that one, Widow is defo related to skill however Hanzo can be considered luck.

the heroes doing that do half the damage with twice the skill, put themselves at risk doing so and have other game mechanics to worry about.

widow deals with shields and flying heroes better than any other dps hero in the game. not sure why you’d mention those.

Widow can headshot shields now. Also she is clearly the best at tracking a dashing Genji or leaping Winston, no need for other heroes to take care of them.

I just want to let you know honzo’s sonar arrow is widows sight but smaller that is also a powerful tool that’s only on a 11sec cooldown When widow’s is a entire ult

Yes it can be powerful but even then lesion and sight is mostly all you need to detect the position of a opponent