I have addressed this issue a few times. It is creating unfair matches, especially when stacks/groups are involved.
First things first it needs to match the tanks, this step is ignored in favor of not putting groups in long waiting lines so they dont lose interest. Second it is unfair that the group can see that Im more seasoned because of the drives, title, skin and or stats, but I cant see who is coordinating with whom. This type of one way transparency leads to an unfair advantage in favor of the stack who already start with a coordination advantage.
I constantly have games where the enemy completely ignores everything including the objective just to start a hunt for me. This is not fun.
I have a few suggestions:
First bring back stack visibility to even the playing field. One way transparency is unfair.
Alternatively hide enemy stats completely, its too easy to spot the play maker and stack focus it to oblivion. Stacks already have the communication advantage let them first talk it out instead of putting a huge bullseye on someone through the stats screen for free.
Finally fix the matchmaker, ppl can easily wait a minute or 2 longer for a better game. I dont enjoy ripping the team apart (especially when playing as tank) either, because it had to be a quick fix for the stacks to get instant gratification.
OW Classic maybe had issues, but the current situation with the matchmaker, since OW2, leads to more frustration than enjoyment.
Do I not have close touch and go games where I have to use my brain for a positive outcome, yes I do (probably why I even still play the game). But they are far inbetween and very rare in prime times to EU timezones where alot of grouping happens.
Im also really tilted of these noob tanks, lvl 1-2 is their highest lvl hero, shooting into barriers and enemy tank religiously, nothing dies, no space is taken. Thats not how you tank diff the enemy team, what are they doing in my games? My guess is brought in by their stack friends, or the Matchmaker just picks one to get a game going.
Yea learning by doing is a thing but for gods sake go watch a “Tank basics” or “OW 101” something like that on youtube. Even Bronze players have awareness what needs to be done, the execution is simply lacking. This is not an issue of broad skill levels. These ppl just installed the game yesterday, and are in my games today.
This is not much of a problem when I play the tank role, my favourite role actually, but the game cant expect someone to play the same role non-stop…
Hmmm you might be right, still doesnt change the fact there are not as many tank players as the other roles. So your perceived goal of promoting 6v6 is just going back to old problems, wouldnt you agree?
You, as a Hammond player (from what I recall, correct me if im wrong), a tank thats pretty alien to me, tbh. You are quite effective, are you not?
Back to the topic though, when I play other roles, its excruciating trying to keep a tank alive, or make plays as dps, when he doesnt know. Tank needs to understand they will get heals last unless certain circumstances. And getting focused by the stack is even more painful and unfun.
Moral of the story folks, learn to play tanks, the Matchmaker depends on it. Tank is fun, im the “raid boss” most games, the dragon with five claws (chinese art for depicting royality, the fingers count the rank), gain your fingers.
I don’t promote 6v6. I play it because I find it more fun. It isn’t the better mode though.
He’s ok in 5v5. In 6v6 less so. He isn’t that good in the tank duels, so having 2 of them really works against him. And in general there is far too much CC in the game now for him to be anything but a specialist pick.
Basically every hero now has something that either stops him, kills momentum or shreds him to pieces.
As I said I dont really play 6v6. So cant really comment without sounding uneducated or stupid.
I do root for the underdog though, always. MM quite Fs that aspect with the whole stacking situation. I perceive the game (5v5) to be quite balanced in its current state. That is the point of the thread. Fairness !!
Information is one of the most valuable resources, if you have it automatically provided without any effort, thats not fair for the underdog.
I played eve-online in its hay days (dont have time now for mmos until im retired). One important fight, we only had 60 ships the enemy fleet 300. I put a mobile warp point in the form of a cloaked ship 100 clicks away (thats the minumum warp distance, or was), let the enemy jump us and then warp the distance and snipe a few. The fight gone for a few hours (cat mouse game), once we were down to 50 vs 60, I called in the 20 small fast ships, waiting, to create chaos, rest is history.
I would like OW to be more like this, OK they are a stack, we are out classed, show me that. Or dont show anyone anything at all.
Map vote is also a lie, game wants me to play tank. Alright lets do this, in the end its not even the voted map but some random defense map appears. Like WTF???
There is a bug or maybe its a feature, before the map voting starts a map glances for a 10th of a second, if it even gets 1 vote it will win over a landslide vote. And you will just sit there like what just happened… well thats blizz cheating you and I wont play that.