Personal winrates mean nothing.
Its proven that any Flex player will always have more SR in Support because it is the easiest role to get value from. Check any T500 Flex mate.
Hitspam 76 can be denied by a single kiriko if your team has a brain and a functioning monitor.
Bruh
You literally dont need to aim with half the support roster , what are you talking about? 
It’s normal for match making to become worse as fewer people are left playing.
I guess when the new season begins, match making will become better.
I haven’t played for almost a month for example.
See no point in returning without new content and with the current match making situation.
But some changes and additions to the game created a more positive experience.
For example banning heroes and avoiding bad players helps the game.
Still a lot more should be done.
Given that MMR (and thus rank) goes up and down as you win and lose.
Win rate is probably the only stat that actually matters.
That’s because they’ll play the supports that can DPS and have impact. This isn’t some rule that applies. You’re just hand picking examples.
This isn’t true. Only mercy you can’t argue doesn’t need “aim”. And even then to be good you’ve got to master movement mechanics.
A true statement. But not one that really applies OW is still one of the most played games out there, and player numbers have gone up recently.
(That being said, the S17 passive changes might take a chunk out of that)
the average playerbase statistically shows us that overwatch had a playerbase between the 23 million to 30 million active players.
and it showed us that May 2025 was the worst month for overwatch to have the least players inside their games: 14,914,701
it increased in :June 2025 with having 17,450,704 players.
but it is nowhere of having the same regular average playerbase hold as it usually did.
just to clarify:
May 2025 was the worst month for overwatch 2 to have the least players inside their games active: 14,914,701
you see roku. you are only posting the positive news not the realistic ones.
tobias made this post on may 2025: he is correct.
you are just being completely naief as usual.
Hello again, quick update.
I reinstalled and gave it another shot, managed to to finish my 50 quickplay wins eventually, still support only. Hopped right into ranked and it’s a whole different ballgame in terms of matchmaking. Got 5W / 5L after placement matches and got put in platinum 5. Teams instantly feel more balanced. I have no idea whats wrong with quickplay matchmaking, but something is definitely not working as intended.
Anyway, having alot more fun now and looking forward to next season!
When talking about the value of a role, no.
Not at all.
In fact is a non factor.
No you just made that up.
Again the list is there, there are multiple supports and those flex players are not playing “Full DPS Support”. No one in T500 is lol.
This is true, 100%.
When we are talking about “aim” we are talking about precision, this dude is comparing soldier to lucio, who literally just needs to press Shift to heal.
The only Supports that need precision when healing (not with ALL its kit) are:
Baptiste, Ana, Illari, Juno.
Thats literally less than half and all of them have other means with little to no precision required to heal people. This is just factual.
All my post is irrefutable mate and proven throughout the years. Ask any coach, any high level player ever. Support has the highest value return per skill invested. Period.
Naïve is what you wanted btw.
So I said,
And you confirmed that. Thanks.
It’s still regularly in the top 10-15 most played games on console. Pretty impressive for what is a very an old game now.
The first line was refuted… So don’t blame me for not taking it seriously.
Well thats incorrect.
I didnt. I put out a display about Overwatch monthly statistics and told you that their average playerbase would contain atleast 23 mil - 30 million active players. It is now 17 mil and that in may 2025 when this thread was created that it was their lowest monthly players activity to date.
I know you are slow and that when we have a conversation that you need extra help but cmon…
Currently 15th for the month on PS, and 18th this week on Xbox. 14th on PC.
You did
If you have to resort to toxic remarks like this, it says far more about you than me. Be better.
Even if it’s 17m, that’s still pretty impressive for an old game. Especially as this won’t count Chinese players. So it’s probably a few million higher.
Was just looking at other games. Didn’t realise MR was tanking that hard now. 70% of players gone. Rough.
It’s fine I not enjoying the game. Or think decisions they make are stupid (I think the changes to passives next season are some of the stupidest things they’ve done). But the game is doing well.
laMO
This has the same energy as “let’s ask Elon Musk what the price of a house should be”
Seriously though, balancing around the pro player meta might be the worst mistake an online game can do
The only way to see what heroes and comps are strong is to watch people playing the game is the best way possible.
The reason Wrecking Ball barely gets changed despite gold players moaning and banning him is because he’s only strong as they play suboptimally.
Luckily, they do look at the game from all ranks perspective. They have staff in all ranks playing the game. But, they know what the strongest combinations are, because that’s what the pros will play.
It doesnt you are just being a moron as usual.
Says the one being angry on the internet…
But, in the meantime. Thank you for confirming my point. Saved me the time and effort 
Shut up freak. Go back to the US forum where you can talk to your boyfriend hieiko.
Lol calm down. I’ve not spoken to her in a very long time.
Now, I wonder who you really are…
It wasn’t at all.
When talking about an entire role, your personal winrates mean nothing.
Again, this is just factual.
That has nothing to do with what I said “lmao”.
You seem lost mate:
Im not asking to balance anything, Im telling this guy how things are, thats it.
You can’t say that Junkrat is the top DPS because your personal win rates with him is 65% or something lol. Personal winrates matter zero.
Yet they balance based on win rates and pick rates…
Also, the thread isn’t about balance. It’s about someone claiming stats to justify the tedious claim match making is show how the problem.
When it is well known, stats are pretty meaningless. The only one that matters is your win rate, and even then it is irrelevant to match making.
Matchmaking is definitely a problem in the EU. A great majority of my matches for the past couple of weeks were an absolute joke with colossal team differences between my team and the enemy team. It’s always funny to see people quickly jumping to defend poor Blizzard when it’s clear that this is a problem they’ve tried to fix for a while and are just incapable of doing so. Not to mention that their leaving penalties are a joke considering leavers are showing up in more and more matches.