In every game you see mercy zen. zen obviously because of his ultimate and mercy because of res. mercys cast time is way too fast in a heated battle
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It ain’t too fast, my man.
And even if it was, there’s a long cooldown afterwards, so it’s balanced.
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y maybe in quickplay or low elo
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Great counter argument, keep it up, you almost changed my mind.
Overwatch right now, (aside from Brigitte because she is way too problematic of a healer right now I feel like because of how much she can counter Reinhardt and Reaper, maybe it’s intended but it doesn’t feel right) is the closest it ever was to having balanced supports. There isn’t any supports I feel like have more pros than cons, and more cons than pros, every support feels like they have their own place now.
And when you call for random nerfs like that, you’re begging to ruin them. I for one was a huge caller for Ana and Mercy nerfs back in the day, and I completely disagree with anyone that says Ana and Mercy need any nerfs right now.
You’re barely in master mate, keep it down.
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Tell that to Lucio who is universally bad. Or to higher ranks which play almost nothing but Mercy + Zen. Bur sure, “balanced”
Doesn’t that just mean that other healers are not worth playing ?
Lucio isn’t useful because his healing is garbage and while it’s fun to be a dps wall riding like a pro it doesn’t help the team much.
He cant even be a DPS. Current team compositions are so tanky he cant do anything. I’d like to see him killing Hanzo 1v1.
Being most picked doesn’t directly equal that they are unbalanced or over powered by themselves, there’s meta and hero compatibility that can affect pick rate.
And Lucio has a 1.30% pick rate on GM according to Overbuff, and by that logic any hero with a pick rate under him which is like 40% of the cast now or so, is underpowered.
Great logic you have there, please educate me oh wise one.
What a trash logic. The only character who is not DPS and has a lower pick rate is Orisa. You cant count the DPS picks because there are more than double the DPS characters than there are supports. Also the next support with low pick rate is Brigitte and she has double his pick rate.
So there you go, learn something before trying to engage in a conversation or better yet play competitive. I doubt QP players should have the right to talk about balance.
So are you going to take back the “low pick rate = underpowered claim” then? Because I don’t see you backing it up.
And if someone wants to have a high/sensitive ego, I don’t care, but when you start looking down upon players who don’t tryhard and saying they can’t talk about balance is bordering being actually ignorant on how the game goes.
You not only have no idea how to interpret statistics you also have no clue what is the best combination to be played because you are stuck in QP.
Okay I will become an expert statistician like you and play comp then so I can be smart too, like you, thanks for guiding me.
Saying how a character has abysmal pick rate doesn’t take a statistician. Now saying how others have lower even though their class is overrepresented is grasping at straws to keep up a flawed argument.
I’m not saying an abysmally low pick rate can’t possibly mean the hero is in a bad state, but using that and only that as an argument even though the hero has a decent pick rate on average, and was way more popular before without any buffs or changes to them. Remember Soldier 76 when he was a popular pick? Now he is way below Lucio, so that means we should buff Soldier 76.
There has been no nerfs to Soldier 76 since he was played a lot, but now all of a sudden he has an extremely low pick rate, so that definitely means he needs a buff right? No, Soldier 76 is strong as he is and doesn’t need a damn buff just because he has a low pick rate.
PS: Lucio doesn’t have an abysmal pick rate, just a below average one. Oh and might I add, you could use that logic to buff Moira because she has a lower pick rate than Lucio in GM, and I’m pretty sure she doesn’t need any buffs (Don’t quote me on the Moira part though).
Don’t think he needs to be buffed, rather the stupid current meta needs to be nerfed.
Moira is a completely different case. She was designed to be played by 1) people who have trouble aiming but want to kill anyway and 2) people who don’t particularly like Mercy but are forced to go main healer. In GM people can aim(Zen) and can do anything in their power to win(Mercy) so her pick rate drops considerably. She is not problematic.
I myself want all supports to be viable but they are not. Try picking Lucio in competitive, chances are you’ll get yelled to switch regularly and this is not a balanced state of supports.
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Eh for some reason the forums just said my post needs approval, it was a huge post and I don’t feel like writing it again. If it gets denied I’m afraid I’ll have to back down out of the conversation, anyway see you and thanks for the conversation.
Um?
Lucio?
Zen?
Say what you wan’t about Zen, but his ult and discord is the only decent thing about him. Other than that, there are way more cons than pros. And Lucio, is well. I don’t even need to explain that.
Mercy is fine, the issue arises because Mercy is the only main healer, with the exception of Ana who is fundamentally broken.
Moira and Brig are both highly situational.
Lucio just doesn’t cut it at the moment, unfortunately.
As you’ve said, Zen is fine.
The game needs more dedicated support heroes. It is difficult to balance hybrids against pure supports unless you implement situational buffs as they’ve done with Moira and Brig. It’s time for another reliable, sustained healer.
well moira is a main healer as well ,problem is , she’s just a worse version of mercy
you put anna as must pick , yet moira situational ? huh ? anna is situational because of her ult but moira ? you never pick her because mercy is way better
you clearly dont understand why mercy is the best support
problem is = mercy can ressurect
rez is the best ability in the game
on top of that she can heal for insane amount of number without trying while moira need to work for that
but rez is the main problem its just way too strong of an ability