Many people are stuck in ranks which they don’t belong to, and you will find people support a MMR reset everywhere.
Could season 11 reset our MMR and be 3 months long instead of 2? It will probably place some people where they don’t belong but the extra 1 month should probably fix it.
Opinions???
People belong were they belong in the ladder. The reason they are there is because they aren’t improving as a player compared to the players in the higher ello’s.
that’s why people often get placed hundreds of SR higher on their alt than on their main ![:thinking:](https://d1kzxbyyijk9k6.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/thinking.png?v=6" ":thinking:")
Few 100 SR higher than your main isn’t a big difference. After the placement games the SR, will even out when they play more. As in they could drop back down by 100’s of SR eventually.
Those are your experiences in your ello Kas. That doesn’t mean it’s the same across different other ellos. I been playing this game since season 1 and while I do accept that the MM from time to time forms garbage team comps, the MM system isn’t as bad as you put it.
Remember every one of the playerbase plays through the same MM ladder, so at some point everyone would have experienced the bad sides of the MM and moved on. You can’t call it trash because it simply isn’t.
When you get a trash team on your side, and the odds are against you the only thing you can do to give your team a chance is filling the gaps in the team by flexing or be a carry with whatever you main.
I have won countless games by filling in the gaps in teams that I have gotten. No tanks in the comp, no problem , tank for them… No dps in the spot, no problem play dps… That’s the kinda mentality you need to have when you land unfavorable teams. It’s how you climb up the ladder. I’m not saying you don’t main a few heroes you absolutely must, but you also at times need to plug the holes in your team, when no one else can.
So if SR is meaningless and everybody is in the wrong rank what is a SR reset going to accomplish exactly? Nothing, we’ll still play in a broken system and our ranks still wont represent our skill. It’ll only become much more of a hassle for everybody because GMs will have to fight bronzies for awhile.
Seems like an awful idea, if you want to change something start from the bottom instead of going for superficial resets.
What’s terrible about the game balance ?
If someone wants to throw he can throw, inspite of what you decide to do with the game. That’s not just an OW problem, it’s true with every other game. The only thing Blizz can do are make off-meta heroes more viable by reworking heroes like Torb and Sym, which they are doing atm…
MMR reset will similarly do nothing. MMR represents individual skill, it’ll be more accurate than the SR.
To me groups and smurfs ruin the ladder. Currently gold players can play in diamond with the right group, GM smurfs can also play in diamond easily. If so many players who are not diamonds play in diamond what is the point of this rank? No point really, it is simply a meaningless shiny icon.
MMR is what makes you get more points for a win and lose less for a loss in platinum and below. It is a different measurement for different heroes because it takes their averages. It is damn important if you want to get out of lower ranks. Also every player on every account they play will eventually reach their MMR unless they play vastly different heroes.
If clicking head was so easy, we would be seeing a super high pickrate for widow across the different ellos. It appears Widows pickrates the highest only at GM.
i see so many cheat the system by getting a new account and then playing with diamond+ players to place higher than where they should be. in the end you’ll go to where you belong if you keep playing
I would say the system as it was in SC2 (might still be) was great.
Your MMR carried over straight away from the previous season, no placements. If you didn’t play for an entire season, you redid your placements to get a new MMR.
They won’t do that, they’ve had 10 seasons and they’ve made it clear that they will never reset mmr. Better to buy a new account every 500 lvl as that’s the only way for the SR system to recognise your actual skill lvl
The end result is the same, but if you have played badly for 500 matches and then start improving, it will take a lot longer for the MMR to converge on your actual skill. If you get a new account, you will get a new result much quicker, but it will also have a much larger error.
What is this? These kinds of topics normally only appear at start of the season. Mid season? Wow.
Anyways. Yes you find people who are “stuck” at ranks that they “dont belong to” and people who support MMR reset. Those people lack the understanding how the system even works and why it would be bad to have a MMR reset. I should prolly save some draft to explain why its bad. But then again… I hope one day people will get smart.
And people claim things like these. This might be true for low ranks since they can get lucky on placements and then they just leave their smurf to the higher rank and be like “yeah I belong here, I just dont want to play with this acc, I rather play with my low rated and keep whining that im stuck and I belong higher”. While they would drop with the smurf if they played enough or they would climb with their main if they really did belong higher. I have 2 smurfs and both placed lower than my main, this is mainly because I played heroes I dont play with my main. None of my friends who have smurf(s) have placed higher but then again none of my lower rated friends have smurfs. One of my friends was silver and few seasons after he was plat. Whats your excuse? He doesent have a smurf. I know many people who have climbed. You could say they got lucky. I can say for sure that they improved as players because I played with them when they were lower and when they were higher.
So what would happen if MMR was resetted?
You would have chaotic games for at least few weeks. Most likely a month or so. Why you might ask. Well EVERYONE is at one point. The whole player base is in the same match making pool in the beginning. Games would be completely random who wins and who loses. You have chances to get games where there is 6 low bronzes vs 6 pro players. Sure fun times, eh? I dont understand why on earth would completely luck based games for few weeks be a good idea and “give chance to people who are stuck to get out”. Sure few people who are low rated can be placed much higher because of luck. But eventually the games would even out and we would end roughly at the same point we are now. It would just create total chaos of unknown period of time, might even take few seasons to even out because some people only play small amounts of games each season and if a bronze gets placed to diamond it can take many seasons to drop back to bronze if he just plays 10 games a season. Its just a total mess that blizz doesent want to deal with, people raging on forums after few seasons of the reset “I keep getting low rank in my games because they happened to get lucky on placements when MMR was reset and keep ruining my games”. Sure those would be rare, but people would be pissed af.
If you are stuck. its time to git gud instead of asking something that would ruin the game experience for everyone. Even for you.
“stuck” I climbed 700 sr in this season so far, and please explain on how you get lucky. The placement system is taking your stats in factor, not win/lose. I lost 8 placement matches in season 9 and got placed at my career high at that time.
I don’t think there would be much chaos if the MMR reset only applied to bronze-plat people
“if”. How you get lucky? Your team is constantly way higher than your enemy team. Lets say your team is you + t500 + gm + master + 2diamonds and eneym team is 3 bronzes 2 silvers and one gold. Do you understand how easy its for you to get good stats in a game like that?
Also I could say, sure why not for bronze-plat level because Im not there. But then again I dont want to ruin the game for those people either.
In mid Gold on my main, but will hit mid-high plat on my alt after placements… OW really needs this. No matter what I do I stay stuck in mid gold on my main.
And what is the difference between these 2 ranks? Its a bit more wins/sr on the alt acc. I stuck in gold for 5 seasons, but since the last seasons even I went out to mid plat.
Not with my smurf, that one got slammed into gold.
I really don’t see a benefit from a reset other than what was already explained like pro vs noob games (like ppl complain it is already)
If that happens the forums will be full with: AIMBOTTERS aka top 500 vs silver.
People belong were they belong in the ladder. The reason they are there is because they aren’t improving as a player compared to the players in the higher ello’s.