Moira needs too be nerfed, too much damage

Moira is too op!! She had 7k+ damage last match while the dpses had like both 4 - 5k. Also all the time when she ults its not like she does little damage noooo noo. She kills the whole team yeesss. What the actual ####??!?!? Balance her please blizzard!!! Im gonna go insaneeeee!!

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counter pick on her, try a hog to hook her mid ult

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Honestly. I think she’s fine.

Of the supports she is mid-tier for everything, shes a reasonable safe pick.

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Oi, I main her as healer. xD Leave her alone! Her ultimate is strong though, too strong.

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she just need her very permissive right clic to be tuned down.
Cause you just have to point around your target to touch it anyway.
meanwhile she has a fairly small hitbox herself.

Moira is only good at low elo because people can’t deal with her.

She is actually one of the worst supports in the game.

Sombra literally counters her entire kit in every way and Ana also renders the healing of it useless, it’s her main deterrence in a teamfight.

This is honestly an issue in people now knowing how to deal with her due to poor game mechanics.
She’s fine.

And D.va renders her useless in neutral fights.

Moira is a safe support when you want to try do a little of everything, but you’ll be doing a lot of nothing too

If you want more damage, go Zen.

Need more sustain, go Bap

In fact, Brig is probably a better option if you want to keep a mix of heals and DMG, whilst her ult is more impactful than Moira’s.

Moira is a great beginners option for support. But that’s it. Unless you play with Lucio in a rush comp, then she’s really good.

This is false.

This is also false. But it’s your opinion so I shall respect that.

Moira is a great support with a very strong ultimate. Although in many games I’ve played, I’ve seen quite a few “DPS Moiras” that end up losing for their team by focusing primarily on DPSing and much lack of healing orb use.

She’s great at assisting with kills and helping finish off foes, that one little tick of an orb can be essential.

All in all, I vote Moira to be one of the best supports.

The meta would suggest you are a long way from being right.

T500 EU support for reference.

You seem to confuse opinion with fact. Moira is low tier factually. In my opinion I can make her work in the right game, but other options would have always been better.

You seem to not understand the word “Fact”, but simply mistaken the word for “Jibberish”

Says the he/she that thinks Moira is good.

Confirmation bias is a horrific thing.

Just because you’re not good with Moira doesn’t mean she’s not actually good. Just keep practicing.

My stats suggest otherwise. But I prefer heroes that mesh in our comps.

Not often you see Lucio Rein, so Moira is low value outside of that. Others offer far greater utility, and have greater impact ults.

But I don’t expect you to understand that.

Plus, I can aim. So I don’t need a soft aim bot to do things.

the ultimate i can see being a bit crazy because of one of the more conventional counters being interrupts being mostly stripped away from most characters.
there are ways of dealing with her ultimate still.
but yeah it’s one of the reasons why she is considered valuable to a team.

it’s a tight rope to walk between not making her too useful and not worth using at all.

Yeah. There are many

Out heal it
Hack
Head shots/kill her
Play LoS

Only way to make it really good is to nano it or damage boost it, both of which are really bad plays over all.

Nano would be a waste of ults, just reset and roll them next fight.

DMG boosting would mean playing Mercy. Mercy Moira is a pretty awful combo and you’ll give your team a massive comp disadvantage playing it.

there’s also pushing the moira to neutralize her as a threat, either off a cliff or into a small room where you don’t have to run from her.

i don’t think nano or damage boosting is necessary because it accomplishes what it needs to accomplish perfectly fine on it’s own.

but i wouldn’t say mercy/moira is pointless, it’s just less about small instances of compact burst saving or killing and in some cases it’s not necessary to worry about that thing because they just overwhelm the opposition.

moira has a ton of healing and good mobility and mercy have point healing and extreme mobility that could go well hand in hand, neither of them have to save the other and they can both escape and dive and where someone might get caught out they can be saved by mercy or aided by moira and in the worst case scenario mercy can still ressurect people.

mercy truly doesn’t get enough recognition for that ability in how crucial and tide shifting it can be especially if you would couple that with a support that can’t stop burst damage from killing someone in their team.

what usually happens is that people are concentrating on what can give constant advantage like speed or discord orb or the more easily recognizable impact abilities like anti-nade, immortality field and now protection suzu, so people undervalue the less noticeable abilities supports like mercy and moira actually bring.

moiras damage orb thrown into a flank route discouraging the enemy from using it is not nothing.
mercys damage boost to increase her teammates ultimate charge is not nothing.

like i’d rather take moira/mercy over brig/mercy or brig/moira.

The problem with her is that she doesn’t want to heal. Gave her the damage orb was a mistake

Forgot, Orissa can shut her down ever quickly too.

It’s needed to give her the ability to fight off flankers.

Supports should be able to duel, otherwise they’d just have to bend over and accept their fate.