alright hear me out there is no reason junk’s primary fire should to the same damage as genji’s ult and if genji’s ult charge got nerfed you should nerf junk’s ult charge to because he charges his ult way to quick for it being able to wipe teams in seconds i understand that the fact that he has a slow projectile but there is no reason junk should do as much damage as he does when he is able to spam the way he does
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Some punctuation would have made that much easier to digest.
But I have to disagree. I think Junkrat seems pretty balanced right now. Strong in some situations, very weak in most others.
I agree… He is too easy to play considering the damage he does…
I have not been playing that long. What are the issues you find with coming up against a Junkrat?
From what I have experienced and watched, he is highly effective if you have to push through a small choke, but if you know he is about he is very quickly run over.
Good luck hitting direct hits constantly with Junkrat.
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try playing junkrat into a genji that’s worth their salt aka that’s on your level and then judge if that’s fair.
to me i just hear a lot of complaining without good foundation to illustrate the imbalance.
yes junkrat does a lot of damage but junkrat does struggle in some areas where other characters don’t and junkrat excel in other areas where others don’t.
that’s basically what a character action game is.
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Junkrats are fine, annoying but fine. Junkrats ult charges faster because he can hit more than one with his splash damage + mines, which is fair but I don’t often see them in games tbh.
He does have annoying skills , primary is fine for most part, you have to predict or be lucky with hits, what I find disturbing about him is how much capability he has in close combat, mines are instant death for most part, if not can help to maintain distance, throwing you back , or as escape, traps and detonation on death, it is very frustrating to push anything when he is around as he can delete you with 0 effort.
But I can’t really say that he is to strong, he is just good in chaotic games that low ranks are because of people running in his shoots by mistake, even for low ranks he is not in my top hate list.
I would say it’s better to redesign Junkrat to be more useful and require at least some skill to be effective.
Right now he requires almost no skill to output a lot of damage:
- spam roughly in the direction of enemy team, very easy
- delete anyone with the easiest one shot combo (primary+mine). It’s almost harder to miss than to hit with it, given you’re have enemy on your screen.
- simple, easy and deadly ult
The amount of effort that junkrat needs to be effective and to win games/duels is much lower than most other heroes. However, his overall usefulness seems to be more limited, especially against good players.
IMO, the combination of these two factors make for a terrible hero, that’s frustrating both to play and to play against.
You saying aiming, predicting of bounce and knowing what zones to spam out and control are not skill?
For me, the one lacking skill is the one walking into an area with slow moving spam.
Same goes for Reaper though, close combat they can one shot you, but far away they’re not good. Junkrat can be good from long range but people can see his grenades easily and where they’re going so they can be dodged.
An ult that has very low HP that can be destroyed and soaked (Zarya shield) etc. But yeah it can be very deadly in the right hands, most ults can.
BattleCattle, you’re putting it like it’s some super complex thing, “aiming, predicting of bounce and knowing what zones to spam out and control” as Junkrat. Just put it simpler: spamming roughly in the direction of the enemy team. And yeah, that doesn’t require any mechanical skill. Of course, when, where and from what position to spam requires some amount of game sense, but that’s besides the point. Point is: it’s way too easy to get kills. Most other heroes have to earn kills by performing harder to execute combos and/or aiming well.
Wolfex, about the ult: you’re right that it can be deadly in the right hands and that it can be easily destroyed. My problem with it is that it AGAIN doesn’t require any skill from Junkrat. If the enemy team is good enough, his ult will be countered, and if they mess up, it won’t be countered. The ult alone would be tolerable, but for this hero it just completes the kit that gets a lot of damage for barely any effort.
Same as with BattleCattle’s response “the one lacking skill is the one walking into an area with slow moving spam”, we get a situation where Junkrat performs extremely easy actions and is counting on the other team to mess up. And, of course, the other team will mess up, because they’re not pros and Junkrat isn’t the only thing they’re focusing on (there are 5 more heroes against them). Sometimes it will be enough to win, sometimes it won’t. Junkrat will still be performing the same easy actions, win or lose.
I mean, do you guys really think Junkrat is in a good place now? He’s basically a cheese hero: easy wins, easy losses, low pickrate on high level.
Never said it was difficult. It is just a different set of skills.
Anyone saying something is “zero skill” is just wrong.
Some heroes are more mechanically intensive, some are more thought intensive.
Watch the good Junkrats… positioning and know where your enemy want to be are key.
THIS IS MY OPINION, I have to support junk takes no skill so it’s understandable why a lot of people play him but his ult is extremely powerful and his primary fire is extremely strong too.
Because of this 90% of my DPS games are me playing junk or hitscan because they dominate really and as rein Zarya and sigma orisa dominating the meta it just makes junk even more powerful pair this character up with bap ult or mercy boost and this character is so op. I feel like he should be powerful but be able to be taken down at the same time which is why we should lower his primary fire damage for a change.
to also support this am taking a screenshot of every time I see junk in my games to prove that he is op right now.
Pick rate doesn’t mean OP though.
If he was OP he would be dominating the T500 leader board. Bar the odd one trick, they are meta slaves, and if a DPS hero is OP it is immediately meta (think the random buffed Genji in OWL last season).
I haven’t seen it recently, but something tells me, he isn’t there often.