New Role Queue System for more flexibility!

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In my opinion the actual version of role pick is unplayable and will leed to a massiv loss of actives players.

The main problems of actual version are:

- way too long searching time for dps

- to easy to troll the whole Team

- no space for flexibility/creativity/strategy

Further I will explain why these are the main problems. In the actual version dps players have to wait up to 10 min for a match. That’s way too long, compared to times without role queue where you had instant matches. The argument "don’t play dps" is useless because many players just play OW because they wanna have fun as dps and without dps the game is not worth to play anymore. Furthermore it’s so easy to troll your whole team in 2-2-2 and role pick because every player is 100% important. With role queue you can go Mercy and just be afk and your team has no chance because they only have one more healer which can not heal that much. Without/ with the new role queue yon can go f.e. with Moira and Brigitt to cover the trolling mercy, but you have still some offensive/tank power. Last, there is no space for any kind of variation or strategy. You are not able to play 3 dps in the last seconds of attack, it’s not possible to pick a third healer when the dps of the other team are on fire and it’s not possible to play two "real" dps like solider and reaper, combined with a "dps" like Symetra.

I would prefer a role Queue System with "hybrid" roles instead of static roles! This means that f.e. one of the both tanks can go as a third dps, in specific situations. The other tank has to possibility to go as a third support. Same System with dps and support, so you will have 6 instead of 3 roles (dps-sup, dps-tank, tank-dps, tank-sup, sup-dps, sup-tank). Instead of Picking 1 out of 3 possible roles, you can pick 6 out of 6 roles. 6 out of 6 means that you can choose more than one role before searching for a match. This will reduce searching time massively!

To still garantee a balenced team there has to be some rules:

  • you can change your role with one of your team mate during breaks, if both agreed to the change. This will create more space of flexibility. If there is a good with in enemy Team and your dps are not able to fight her, a tank go widow and fight the other widow. Further this can help to “fight” against team-trollers.

  • to avoid a instant usage of the hybrid roles, its should not be possible to change your role ingame in the first, lets say, 30 seconds.

The skill point system should be rested to the old system with only one skill rating instead of 3 different, because in actual system only the dps rating can say something about your real skill. Further it’s is easy to troll. Platin DPS and silver support because of constant support trolling, will be basic in the next months.

I would love to see this new system on the PTR to test it in the game. Personally, I think that OW will be dead in the next months, if nothing changes.

Please share your feedback about this new system and share this post to all blizzard developers.

Thank you <3

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No, I’d rather not have people begging to play dps after every single round. Because that is what will happen if you include even the slightest chance to shift roles during a match.

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No, I’d rather not have people begging to play dps after every single round. Because that is what will happen if you include even the slightest chance to shift roles during a match.

And that’s not even factoring in that someone could be 500 SR higher on the role they want to swap to completely screwing up match balance.

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and its not possible to play the character you want on the map/side where you are really good with em (you cant select map or sides etc).

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No. The system isn’t unplayable at all. There is no reason people should be moaning about this and claiming it’s bad for the game, it isn’t. I’d even go as far as to say that isn’t even an opinion. Role Q is good for Overwatch and that’s a fact.

So, we have people moaning they can’t play DPS because it takes them like, 5 minutes in lower ranks. Granted, I don’t know what it’s like in higher ranks but in gold, it takes like, 5 minutes.

Next. This system doesn’t make it easier to troll, nothing has changed when it comes to trolling. People can troll with this system just as easily as the old one. There’s no difference.

And then the forbidden word, FLEX. I’m sorry but can we just ban that word all together? Can we blacklist it because I am getting sick of hearing people argue that they can’t flex. It’s the only fair point that anti-RQ players have and they’ve done it to death so bad that I’m getting really sick of it. There is so many things good about the system and they more than outweigh the negatives.

PC thing? I’ve never actually experienced times that bad, but I’ll take your word for it…or you know, you could just learn to play OTHER ROLES.

Ok another fair point. This is the only thing I agree with here. I kinda wish they added “Comp classic” in Arcade with placements and everything. Basically like the other arcade comps except it’s on at all times like mystery heroes.

And you’re trying to tell me that didn’t happen it the old system?

When has “3 DPS in the last 30 seconds” actually worked though? You’ll just get steamrolled without enough healing or tanks. Changing the comp last second or halfway through the match won’t work. If the tam has more ults than you because they haven’t sporadically changed heroes, they’ll win the fight, simple as that.

No. You was just on about trolling earlier and this WILL make it even worse. Never. No, no no no no no!

Ok so they we have a 3 DPS 3 Support comp. No.

So not only do we have people complaining and harassing you because you stole their main, now it will be because they want to swap to DPS so they can “deal with that annoying Genji”. Plus, we have to think about how the SR would work in that situation.

Pffffffft. Ok, sure. That IS the biggest BS that’s ever been posted on this forums. So this Mercy who has gotten 50K heals and has carried the game, isn’t as good as this DPS who got 0 elims. Ok, sure.

Again, this happened in the old system WHAT HAS CHANGED?

Oh shut up. The game will be dead, ITS THE BEST ITS EVER BEEN! Just because like, 5 people want to quit the game doesn’t mean it will be dead, just shut up.

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eeeewww, just returned to the game and had one ranked match. it felt awful.

not being able to change role and react to something going on in the field … makes me feel crippled, game-wise.

So I am with the Flex issue of OP, for now.

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What you experienced was most likely someone playing a role they aren’t used to, since this mode encourages it. I’ve met alot of support mains who try to do their best as dps but not fully getting through yet. Understanding and sympathy is pretty much what this new change requires. I know that alot of Overwatch player, and most likely you as well, has the mental capacity of a worm, but just stick with it for a bit and things should even out.

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Thanks for the thing with the worm. If that was for me.

Pinned to one role, makes thinking about much else useless. “I don’t care about the enemy Bastion not countered, that’s none of my business as a Healer.” Like that worm of yours I am doing my specialist thing and know nothing else. Awful.

When the set roles don’t work in a team, we are doomed and have to watch teethless to the end. Like, when the worm built for it won’t handle the bigger pebbles, all the other worms have a hard day and can’t do shi t about it.

I am full of understanding and sympathy.

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Sorry but nobody asked me if I wanted any of this. If my games are worse as a result I will complain about the forced lock and blame my teammates for being inadequate in their roles. I am not there to waste my time in matches I have 0 chance to swing.

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Huh? Contering Bastion is pretty much the healers’ job, going Zen for the discord and Ana for the Sleep dart. This what I’m saying. You aren’t as good at the game as you think you are.

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Yea, but you’re in the minority this time. I didn’t want buffs to Hanzo or Widow either but yet here they are. I still don’t make a new thread every day about them.

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sure, I sleep him, what do YOU think. but, don’t tell me, Ana or Zen are the first characters coming to your mind, when there is a Bastion to be countered behind one and a half shields.

what’s eating you, btw, why you getting personal?

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Zen is absolutely the hero that first comes to mind. Other than that it kinda depends on the map layout and what the other heroes the enemy are running.

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Ok, will keep Zen in mind for next time in support role against such a thing.

A Bastion on our own side, is what comes first to MY mind. To break that other Bastion’s comfort zone. At least, from my point of view, it would be worth a try, after 4th team wipe and nobody else changing something.

Not being able to do that, is an awful (new) feeling for me in Overwatch.

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Role que isint tbe issue its the insanely broken matchmaking.

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With the role lock system in place I had way more bad games than before.
80% of the games played so far in role lock were worse than the games without.