Official challenge to Jeff Kaplan

General Discussion
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You can do the math in Excel. When she ult, she gets a ton of armor on top of passive healing. With her damage and attack speed, she melts full hp Orisa in less than 3 seconds. Her AA has AoE, she was hitting Orissa and Hog, Soldier came to drop health pack for them and got hit too. All 3 died in less than 3 sec while shooting her. It may have not been a pure 1v3, she got healed a little bit by Moira in the end, but still it was almost 1v3 stomp, yes.

It was in the door choke on last point Rialto.

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Wait for a second, your arguments don’t hold any true meaning here.

Those arguments are true. It can’t be denied. However, in this case, it has no impact on this issue.

You suggested that Jeff Kaplan should 1v1 against a Brigitte player. Based on your bet that he has to win 1 out of 10 matches, you are arguing that a 1v1 battle against Brigitte is almost impossible to beat.

And that’s where your argument falls apart:
The Discussion was never about a fight between multiple players, just one player against Brigitte.

Most replies here are about how to fight alone against Brigitte (my reply, too). However, you can only deny those arguments, if you have proof regarding the same topic, which is 1v1 battles.

If we follow your argument, then we have to transition from a 1v1 battle to a team battle, where new factors like the composition, location, map, etc. are added.

As I said above, your statements about team-based fight might be true yet it is irrelevant in this discussion about 1v1 battles.

You can’t object arguments with evidence that doesn’t relate to the topic.

:dragon:

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Not just a 1v1 either, a 1v1 against a Brigitte who only runs forward attacking.

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Jeah, let’s distance from that absurd suggestion and stick to general 1v1 :wink:

:dragon:

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Can I just interrupt to say that it feels good to see somebody else argue and debate focussing on facts and arguments instead of SR and conjecture?

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Jeff and co will just say the game isn’t balanced around 1 vs 1, like blizzard have done for the passed, well since when ever wow was released.

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What’s wrong about that satement? Overwatch’s asymmetrical hero roster doesn’t allow balanced 1v1 matches, after all.

A truly balance 1v1 match woul be against the same hero but the suggestion was to fight with a different hero.

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What’s wrong with the statement, not anything, it’s just a generic blizzard excuse for imbalance.

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She does 41 DPS against Orisa. 21 DPS when fortified. So during the first 4 seconds or getting into melee range, she’ll do 80 damage, and it will take another 3 seconds to get her down to 0 after that. Not counting bringing Brig out of melee range in the beginning using Halt.

Orisa does 72 DPS against Brigitte, while she has armor. 259 DPS if all headshots (crit bonus adds before armor damage reduction). Let’s say you only make half the shots critical (which isn’t high considering the rate of fire), and you end up at 165 DPS. Brigitte is healing at 16 HPS, making the effective damage 149 DPS.

Even with Rally, Orisa alone rapes a solo Brigitte just swinging hammer, in just over two seconds, unless the Orisa player totally loses her sh*t and forgets both aim and Fortify.

Now you’re saying there was a hog and a soldier there too. Soldier will do 126 DPS with just body shots. Hog is useless while armor is up, let’s discount him.

So with a combined 275 effective (after self heals) DPS, you’re saying Brigitte was alive long enough to burn them all down? No. They missed most of the shots, dropped the healing station in the wrong place, forgot to fortify, and likely threw their arms in the air and screamed “AAAAAAAH OOOOOPEEEEEH!!”

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Wait, are you talking about imbalance regarding hero X vs hero Y or are you talking about imbalance regarding Hero Z being OP and needing nerfs/buffs?

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I dare you to do a 1:1 with pretty much any range character like soldier 76. There is only one rule. You may never go into melee distance.

Honestly your one rule effectively forbids you to counterplay Brigitte. What are you trying to proof that you can make any 1:1 match up unfair by introducing weird rules?

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LOL

I have friends throughout all ranks that can easily kill brig.

Do you want to know the secret?
The one thing they know but you don’t?
Are you sure?
This is shock and surprise you.
You would never have worked it out.

Here we go.

COUNTERPLAY!!!. every hero has counters.
Pharah-Hitscan
Genji-Track heros(winston)
Brig- HIgh damage range.

OMG IT IS THAT SIMPLE.
And do you know why they know it. Because instead of writing crappy posts and being lazy. They learn the game, they read up and they talk to others.

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Oh you might be surprised. After all the people who defend Brigitte put forward how flankers have no counters so Brigitte is absolutely necessary.

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Im not jeff but I can win ur challenge 10/10 times any day unless I get dc or something like that. So how about you challenge me and buy me a smurf?

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You can just friend eachother and set up a custom game, it’s 1v1’s they want, so let’s do it