Basically now all you have to do is get as many accounts as possible and ruin others people’s game by smurfing and rolling on lower level and/or trolling/leaving games cause why not its not your main account anyway.
Guess i’ll just get a second account myself since it seems to be absolutely normal and not punishable unlike in other games who are so “restricting” and so “strict”. I mean what’s the point of trying to climb your real rank when its funnier to just stomp on an easier target.
So what you are saying is that better players beating you is annoying?
What i am saying is that losing to better players who are not in their real rank is indeed very annoying, not to mention people who leave on purpose cause they don’t care of the consequences (if there is any in the first place cause i don’t really know if the report system is a thing anymore)
But im not gonna waste my time talking to you since you act like the smurfs and leavers’s white knight on every post i saw there
No, I just wanted to clarify.
Ok. So a Master player gets a new account (nothing wrong with that). Levels it playing QP and Arcade.
Hits level 25 and does his placements… Places 2700.
They will then likely gain big chunks of SR off their first few wins till they hit 3k, then performance based SR is gone above that so they have to grind.
There is always the “git gud” argument. If someone is better than you… practice, learn and beat them.
“Git Gud” that’s basically the only argument you smurf white knight have anyway.
Oh. So practicing and improving at things isn’t something you do in other aspects of your life?
If you are playing a competitive mode, you should be (in theory) being the best you can. And that requires practice and testing yourself.
And then there is always the argument that 90% of the people you are accusing of smurfing (true smurfing is against the rules) are just alt accounts. And wasting your time and money on multiple accounts isn’t a crime.
OMG the real life comparison, you are reaching so far Mr White Knight its hilarious and quite sad.
Don’t waste your time answering im done trying to speak with a wall who will rather blindly support those kind of players who prevents others from climbing by hiding behind other accounts
So you don’t see completive as a route to test and improve your skills?
the only thing that prevents a person from climbing is themself.
I climbed from bronze to diamond. I am now “stuck” in gold/plat. Why? Because I don’t practice enough anymore. But I have stepped that up a little and I am back to 60%+ win rates on my main heroes.
As Tom Brady said… If you want to be good at something… practice, practice, practice
And also, if you are desperate, lazy and bad… getting boosted seems to be really easy (boosted accounts are a lot bigger of an issue, and even then it is a pretty small one).
One answer and two edits you are hilarious
Also i never complained about being stuck stop changing the subject man
the main goal of that post was to talk about how the game evolved from give your best as you said ( a very noble way to think tbh) to get a smurf or an alt and act like a prick on other players from lower levels
Stick to the subject please
But alright then White Knight let me ask you a question then.
Imagine that you gave your best in a game, you went 100% and yet you lose the game cause one of your teammate leaved before telling you “i don’t care its not my main” and right after one of the enemy taunt by saying “ez smurfing”
What would you do ? how do you feel ? Do you really think someone will smile and say “oh i just need to get better” ?
You know what I would do.
As you say, I’ve given 100%, tried my best so I can hold my head high with my performance. You can’t win every game after all.
But I would report the players you mention and move on.
Two main reasons for this
Yes, a little bit of me would be annoyed… But I am not going to waste more energy on things I can’t control.
All I can do is try my best. And learn from the mistakes I inevitably make. After that you can just hope everyone else does similar and you are golden.
Well im just looking forward to see your cute boy scoot idealism to get destroyed by those players so you can be the next after me to post a silly rant on a forum.
If only more people were like you that game would be great but sadly there is those who cheat and ruin others game for their fun and those who are tired of it
Thank you for the chat
Yep. There are bad eggs in the game. You encounter one, report it.
You’ve then done your bit and can move on.
The chances of you playing with or against a true smurf are pretty slim. Mostly just alt accounts a few hundred SR lower than their main.
And I’ve gone from 2300 to 1900 to 2800 to 2400 to currently 2700 on tank this season alone, so a few hundred SR is basically nothing.
OP, you’ve been posting about smurfing for 3 years and you’re still lvl 900.
Smurfs don’t ruin your games, you hardly ever play this game. What you need to do is play more often and get better.
the thing is, some people don’t care about improving hence why smurfs are an issue because they play for casual fun.
another issue why smurfs are an issue is that some people genuinely can’t get better even if they try.
so would you feel ok with smurfs ruining the game for disabled people who genuinely can’t perform better because of their disabilities?
like nah, smurfs are an issue and will continue to be one because playing games to the vast majority of players is a fun little hobby for people to de-stress and have some fun when they come home from school/work.
but yah no let those normies do more normie stuff because playing games is for “gamers” or what?
This guy summed up my philosophy to the game.
You can get mad about smurfs and things other people do all you like. It will not help you.
If you objective is to improve, or if it is to vibe and have fun… all the same. Just worry about what you do.
well it’s ok if you’re trying to improve as there’s no reason to get mad at someone better than you because that’s where you’re aiming yourself.
but if you’re just coming home from a bad day at work you don’t want to get dunked on and told to uninstall the game, just because someone else spent a ton of time on the game and got a new account just to do that.
but still to me this is just a drop in the sea in comparison to the tank shortage issue so i generally don’t care.
but there really is no defense for smurfing, it’s just bad practice that harms more than it does good.
Still the same. You don’t have to take what is typed by some sweaty kid to heart.
And if you are just coming in after a bad day, and want to chill with some games. Turn match chat off and do your thing.
As I said, if you want to improve lovely… if you just want to chill and have fun, also lovely.
But the same rules apply, just worry what you can/want to do. Why get upset about what you can’t control.
Someone being a troll in text chat. Turn it off.
One of your team playing like a donut. Avoid them.
You not enjoying play. Stop.
People make playing video games too difficult for themselves.
There is no real defence for smurfing. But some issues
You are more likely to have a bad game because of poor comms, or people just misjudging things. Because humans are not perfect.
this right here is whats wrong with the statement to let smurfs be as is, they don’t even have to be smurfs, just the fact that they might be thinking they are smurfs just turns people off the game and kills the game because they can just pick up a different game, they don’t have to play overwatch where they aren’t wanted.
so smurfs even though you don’t even play against them = kills game.
really it’s just not good, i’ve said this a lot of the time, the game itself is good, the people in it isn’t and really if it weren’t for the addictive play nobody would play it today.
games like counterstrike and other more well known tryhardy games nobody cares about others bad temper, in fact that’s a part of the appeal when playing those games, you sign up for it because you want to piss people off.
but in overwatch it’s trying to appeal to the casual crowd and it just doesn’t work because you’ll have these people who treat it like a counter strike type of game in terms of behaviour which just kills all the appeal the developers intended for it.
and that just doesn’t mesh well with overwatch because the game just devolves allready on the character picking screen, hell allready on the role picking screen, not because the game is bad, but because of the behaviour from other people just makes the game un-enjoyable.
think about it when you solo, how many times can you say your team didn’t tilt or lash out or something the entire game.
smurfing is a part of that problem, not because it’s allways real, but because it’s a mood killer just as everything else can be.
and when the game does that enough you’re just turned off playing it atleast if you’re a casual, and there’s nothing wrong with being a casual.
but yeah that’s the issue, casual game not being played by a fully casual crowd, pushing the casuals out.
Smurfs are few and far between.
They get dealt with when people report them.
But people also report better players, or people on alt accounts. So dealing with actual issues takes long because they have to wade through a load of BS reports.
My friend is constantly called a “smurf” because he plays on a fairly low level account currently sitting in plat. He plays normally just doesn’t play on that account as much as his main. His main is about 900sr higher.
So reporting him as a smurf is just wrong.
And that boils down to people not knowing what they are talking about.
This season alone I’ve gone up and down and have nearly 1000sr between my lowest point and highest.
So having multiple accounts is not the issue.
Being good on new account isn’t an issue.
You can have a level 5000 account and smurf, because level of account isn’t anything to do with smurfing. Smurfjng is all about taking action to deliberately manipulate the ratings to keep you significantly lower.
A masters player getting a new account and doing first placements will be in mid to high plat. That isn’t smurfing. That is just where the system puts them. If they then stomp the next few games and quickly hit diamond. They have done nothing wrong.
The reason why these unranked to GM challenges are easy to do? Even the best players when they hit level 25 and do placements will have placements matches in gold/plat/diamond and probsbly place diamond at best. But then quickly move up with wins as the MMR system figures it out.
In short. Smurf exist but are rare. Alt accounts are fairly common (think I’m the only one in my group with one account in ranked (I have a second ball otp account, but I only play qp and arcade to mess about). And having multiple accounts isn’t an issue.
but getting an extra account is smurfing no matter what because you’re circumventing the system that placed you in the first place.
someone getting a boosted account is a form of smurfing aswell.
it goes both ways, and just because this type of behaviour exists you cannot stop people from accusing each other from it which just spoils the game.
if people stopped getting extra accounts there would be no question about this and people could be at ease atleast on this topic, but then you’ll have the cheating accusations etc.
smurfing contributes to a mindset and that mindset is what’s destroying everything.
but as a philosophical question we need to be honest with ourselves, is there such a thing as a competitive casual pvp game?
well the devs like to think so, but that might not be the case and that’s why it’s a problem because people are being sold a game that’s marketed to casuals but it isn’t for casuals.