Overwatch new true goal

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The link is a coincidence. If it was everyone buying multiple accounts was cheating… fine.

Someone cheating is one issue. Them buying multiple accounts isn’t an issue.

Anti-cheats will never win 100%, because coding cheating is a economically rewarding “profession”. That isn’t on game devs to solve, they can just make it a little harder. That is on legal enforcement and governments to deal with as it a copyright issue. But they are behind on that, so don’t hold your breath.

Again. Cheating and multiple accounts are not intrinsic.

I can find a bunch of cat owners that like chocolate moose… doesn’t mean it is a link.

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well, buying an alternate account doesn’t mean it’s a cheater, but cheaters buy multiple accounts.

just because the market is more enabled and more financed there’s gonna be more of it, and both of them go hand in hand.

your equivalency is not accurate, you are required to have multiple accounts as a cheater, but you aren’t required to have cheats to have multiple accounts.

if you ban all extra accounts you’ll affect all cheaters, but you’ll affect all people who only bought extra accounts who don’t cheat aswell.

but as we know, extra accounts isn’t necessary to play the game, so why get extra accounts in the first place?

it’s like buying multiple motorbikes that’s exactly the same model only for you to use them by yourself.
nothing wrong with that, just odd to do that.

now just because you do that doesn’t mean you illegally trim them, but people who illegally trim motorbikes tend to have plenty of the same model of motorbikes around.

can’t really prevent it either.

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So the issue is cheating. not account ownership.

Stopping hundreds of people from having a second account because 1 person cheated is silly.

You don’t have to have anything more than 1 account. The only person I actually know who cheated only had one account. Got caught and came back 2 years later on a new account.

But again, you are trying to compare a motorbike collector to a criminal… There is no link. The owning multiple of something doesn’t make them a criminal, or even likely to go that path. Guy living opposite me has 4 of the same car (different colours), he’s then modded them in different ways. Different things for different people.

Like if I wanted to truly one trick a hero and see how good I was on them. I would buy another account so that my MMR, and then SR would be solely on that hero and not diluted by other things.

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there is a link, it’s just loosely defined by the amount of bikes they have.
and because you can’t go after everyone that has many bikes because it would only be foolish to try.
the people who elegally trim bikes are more able to run free because of it.

and if you want to one-trick a hero why would you care about your SR or MMR, the only thing that matters is you being able to one-trick that hero.
your SR and MMR will even out as you would have only one-tricked them all the way.

having a clean record is nothing but narcissism.
as i said before, there’s no good reason to have multiple accounts.
there are reasons to have them, but i don’t think you’re especially well adjusted if you want or have one.

i mean sure if you have a copy for console and a copy for pc that’s a different thing because crossplay and playing on different type of machinery is a whole different set of issues.

yes it’s silly to stop 1 person from cheating out of a hundred.
but is it really silly to stop 1 person that ruins the game for thousands at the cost of hundreds lazy and narcissistic peoples right to self indulge in that?

as i pointed out before, why should we even report people for doing something if they can just go on a different account, why should we even try to have anti-cheat if cheaters are just gonna bypass them.

it’s a community issue, not a dev issue, if people choose to be dodgy they can’t punish them unless you live in like korea where it is an actual crime to use game cheats online.

so yeah, just because it’s a bad thing doesn’t mean we can do anything about it if we want to play overwatch, it can only make us not want to play overwatch.

and when that happens enough this game dies and the cheaters and booster/thrower account sellers are just gonna move to the next game and keep on doing what they do.

multiple accounts is just a loophole that people can exploit, a loophole in of itself isn’t bad, it’s just a flaw, but people can abuse it and they usually do.

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Why would you care?

It was in the description of the scenario.

Because you wanted to truly see how good you were on that hero.

I know you don’t care for such things, but there are people who do. And that is why they do it.

There is a guy in T500 on NA who is infamous for one tricking Zen and if someone else picks Zen and doesn’t swap he just leaves the game. So everyone knows him, they just let him play Zen. All because he doesn’t want his MMR change by having to play heroes he isn’t as good on because he wants a true reflection of his Zen skill.

Not the best way to do things agreed, but it is what it is.

But what is wrong with setting yourself a challenge of being the best you can be on something, and starting that challenge from scratch. That isn’t narcissistic, or ego driven. That is a personal challenge. Something to give you drive to play and improve.

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no that is pretty narcissistic thinking that no one elses game matters as much as yours.
all because you only want to play one hero, maybe take that kind of thinking to a game mode that actually allows you to do that without bothering other people.

and whats wrong, your zen stats don’t change because you play a different hero for a couple of games, the only thing that changes is the visual ui that they glorify, to be unbesmirched by other character picks, that’s it, it doesn’t affect any of zens actual character stats.

remember that these t500 people sit in a qeue for quite some time to even get a game, and here’s this person that pretty much says nope and puts you right back into qeue because they are on some personal mission.

tell me what happens if this zen player encounters someone with exactly the same mentality as them but for them it’s a tank or a dps, and they can’t get it and they leave their games because of it.

it’s really rather selfish.
now imagine 100 people out of the t500 doing it.

you don’t know if this becomes a trend, just as much as occupying the top 5 with 5 accounts.
i don’t like giving anyone a free pass for something selfish.

and why i care? because one does not come alone.
where there’s one, there’s more.

you willing to have these subsect of people go into games demanding to play 1 character or leave to arbitrarily increase your wait time or basically force everyone else to pick around them?

the only reason why i’m not freaking about this is because i don’t see competitive as a genuine ranked experience and have no intention of participating in it.

if i were like a t500 player i’d quit and uninstall the game if i saw someone like that, or like funnyastro just camping the top 10 ranks.
it would ruin my experience.

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Reverse it. Why does your experience matter more than the one tricks?

Ultimately the experience you are having is only relevant to you.

If I que now, I dont care if my team have been having bad games. That means nothing to me. I only care about that one match. If I have a player that one tricks then I work round them because I personally enjoy playing most of the heroes.

But everyone finds their own way to enjoy the game.

Funnyastro became regarded as one of the best players in the game, because of his ability on one hero. Abd saying you’d uninstall if you had to play with someone who’s proven to be one of the very best is a bit of an odd take. If I was in those ranks I’d want them in my games as much as possible. Because then I would know I was competing with or against the very best. Testing my skills, strats and so on.

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i don’t care i won’t bother them as i won’t be playing with them because i don’t want to.
that way they can play with people who can accept them.

but i don’t want to play with people who only plays 1 character and nothing else.
especially if that means i don’t get to play the game at all because of them because their selfish request didn’t get met.

why should i even want to be around people like that.
you choose who you surround yourself with, remember that.